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I think I just tanked an interview

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    Loki
    wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 21:35 last edited by
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    Sounds like it comes down the fact they want the job to ultimately be office based.

    I think it’s reasonable to have them ask you to come to the office once to pick up hardware. I wouldn’t hire you if you wouldn’t even do that because I would think ever getting you in the office for an office job would be a struggle.

    It may be ridiculous that this is an office job but it’s their prerogative.

    Obviously this is nothing against you. I just think the two of you are too far apart on a fundamental issue. You could deflect by going to get your equipment but you have your valid reasons for not wanting to.

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      27 Jul 2020, 21:35

      Sounds like it comes down the fact they want the job to ultimately be office based.

      I think it’s reasonable to have them ask you to come to the office once to pick up hardware. I wouldn’t hire you if you wouldn’t even do that because I would think ever getting you in the office for an office job would be a struggle.

      It may be ridiculous that this is an office job but it’s their prerogative.

      Obviously this is nothing against you. I just think the two of you are too far apart on a fundamental issue. You could deflect by going to get your equipment but you have your valid reasons for not wanting to.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 21:53 last edited by
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      @Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:

      I wouldn’t hire you if you wouldn’t even do that because I would think ever getting you in the office for an office job would be a struggle.

      Right, but it's not an office job. Literally it isn't. No one I'd work with would be in that office.

      You're right, though. Irreconcilable differences.

      Please love yourself.

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        27 Jul 2020, 21:53

        @Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:

        I wouldn’t hire you if you wouldn’t even do that because I would think ever getting you in the office for an office job would be a struggle.

        Right, but it's not an office job. Literally it isn't. No one I'd work with would be in that office.

        You're right, though. Irreconcilable differences.

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        Loki
        wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 22:01 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

        @Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:

        I wouldn’t hire you if you wouldn’t even do that because I would think ever getting you in the office for an office job would be a struggle.

        Right, but it's not an office job. Literally it isn't. No one I'd work with would be in that office.

        You're right, though. Irreconcilable differences.

        I hear you. Right now there is a large national trend away from offices and to the home. It suits the corporation to save on real estate and the individual gets more freedom and less commute time.

        I predict this will swing back, not all the way, but there will be regrets, big time.

        Corporations will come to understand that they will not be able to perpetuate their “myth” (as defined by Harari- read Sapiens) and engagement will suffer mightedly.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 22:08 last edited by
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          @Loki What I think will slow it will be the desperation due to higher unemployment. Employers will be able to set the terms for some. For others, who already are working remotely, the cat won't return to the bag. So it'll be interesting.

          Please love yourself.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 22:23 last edited by
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            Haven't had anything useful to contribute so I stayed out of it. Just want to wish you good fortune, no matter what you decide on this offer.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • C Catseye3
              27 Jul 2020, 22:23

              Haven't had anything useful to contribute so I stayed out of it. Just want to wish you good fortune, no matter what you decide on this offer.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 22:35 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:

              Haven't had anything useful to contribute so I stayed out of it. Just want to wish you good fortune, no matter what you decide on this offer.

              I'm flounderin' too, so that's very much appreciated, Cats. 👍

              Please love yourself.

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                27 Jul 2020, 22:23

                Haven't had anything useful to contribute so I stayed out of it. Just want to wish you good fortune, no matter what you decide on this offer.

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                George K
                wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 23:07 last edited by
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                @Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                Haven't had anything useful to contribute so I stayed out of it. Just want to wish you good fortune, no matter what you decide on this offer.

                Yah. What she said.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 23:15 last edited by Mik
                  #80

                  I'm seeing remote work as a national security issue. Do not think some hard-eyed folks world round have not seen first hand what this virus has done to weaken this country on a lot of fronts. It may or may not have been accidental this time but it doesn't mean it wont be intentional next.

                  If we don't take major steps now while it is fresh to harden ourselves against future pandemic events we are very foolish.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 00:01 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer Ok, you don’t feel comfortable going in unless there’s a vaccine. That’s your go to for the job, do explain that firmly but nicely. It’s not a matter for negotiation.

                    Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

                    The Brad

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                      28 Jul 2020, 00:01

                      @Aqua-Letifer Ok, you don’t feel comfortable going in unless there’s a vaccine. That’s your go to for the job, do explain that firmly but nicely. It’s not a matter for negotiation.

                      Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 00:08 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                      Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

                      Good question, and one I'll definitely pose after the initial rejection. 👍

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 21:43 last edited by
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                        No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

                        Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

                        Now nothing.

                        Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

                        Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 22:05 last edited by Mik
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                          I suspect they have to get some approval. It takes time.

                          In the future I think you need to make your workplace expectations clear earlier on They may feel they invested a lot of time to come up on this now.

                          Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            28 Jul 2020, 22:05

                            I suspect they have to get some approval. It takes time.

                            In the future I think you need to make your workplace expectations clear earlier on They may feel they invested a lot of time to come up on this now.

                            Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 22:15 last edited by
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                            @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                            Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

                            They don't know how to deal with virtual interviews, so I give them some latitude there. They said they've never done this in the past with in-person interviews. Basically this is a company that runs out of three timezones who don't know how to work remotely. Hilarious.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 23:49 last edited by
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                              I was thinking pathetic. It leads me to believe they put no thought into their workforce.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                89th
                                wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 00:00 last edited by
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                                It’s weird how long their process is. Kinda is a red flag to me.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 00:10 last edited by Catseye3
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                                  Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you and the universe are neither of you enormously excited about this opportunity.

                                  Do you find that when you have to spend too much time thinking about whether or not to pursue a course, that you're kind of crowding out the passion?

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    28 Jul 2020, 21:43

                                    No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

                                    Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

                                    Now nothing.

                                    Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

                                    Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

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                                    brenda
                                    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:05 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                    No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

                                    Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

                                    Now nothing.

                                    Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

                                    Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

                                    Did they give you a date for when they would give you a response? If not, then the extra time could be in your favor, especially if it's due to making changes to your employment agreement, such as the remote work status.

                                    It's better to get a slow yes than a fast no. 🙂

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                                      Rainman
                                      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:27 last edited by
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                                      I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                                      It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

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                                      • R Rainman
                                        29 Jul 2020, 01:27

                                        I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                                        It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

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                                        mark
                                        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:28 last edited by
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                                        @Rainman said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                        I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                                        It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

                                        +1

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                                          Most likely explanation is typical HR delay but the other not insignificant probability is that they suddenly cottoned on to the irreconcilable differences.

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