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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

    The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
    George KG AxtremusA 2 Replies Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

      The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

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      George K
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      @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

      The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand

      HIs lawyers certainly understood that. I wonder how they explained it to him.

      "Listen, Mr. President. We have to talk about how you....present yourself during questioning. Your remarks tend to be unhinged a bit...off the cuff and could really screw you be damaging."

      Even better, I wonder how he reacted.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

        The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

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        Axtremus
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        #10

        To @jon-nyc's point two posts up:

        https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-donald-trump-video-deposition.html

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #11

          Remember everyone, this being a civil trial, the standard isn’t “beyond a reasonable doubt”, rather it’s “preponderance of the evidence”.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #12

            And the credibility of that evidence. Is there anything there other than one person saying another person did something? Anything sufficient to reach that judgement? I really don't know, as I haven't been following it.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
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              #13

              Trump found liable.

              $5M in damages.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #14

                I guess it was enough.

                Not difficult to believe.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #15

                  They didn’t find the rape allegation true, just sexual assault and defamation.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    #16

                    I don't even find the assault charge plausible.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
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                      #17

                      Of course you don’t.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Of course you don’t.

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                        Jolly
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                        #18

                        @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                        Of course you don’t.

                        No, most people that don't have TDS would say the same thing. As poisoned as the New York jury pool is, I doubt very seriously Trump could get a fair trial.

                        This is bullshit. You know it, I know it.

                        Don't pretend it's something different.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
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                          #19

                          How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

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                            George K
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                            @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                            How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                            Behavior yes, this particular incident, no.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #21

                              Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
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                                #22

                                If we were talking about Mike Pence then I too would say it is implausible.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                                  Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                                  Agreed, and, this being a civil, not criminal case, the bar is much lower for an unfavorable verdict for Trump.

                                  So, does this affect his candicacy?

                                  Donald Trump (R - Verified Sexual Predator).

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #24

                                    No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

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                                      @jon-nyc

                                      true believers will think its a hoax.

                                      Thankfully there are none of the those types in TNCR

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
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                                        I think it's quite plausible. But I am naturally suspicious of cases that are not brought until there is political hay and/or money to be made 25-30 years later.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

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                                          #27

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                                          Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                                          Yeah, how many years down the line?

                                          It doesn't pass the sniff test.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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