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The Trump Trial

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

    The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

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    To @jon-nyc's point two posts up:

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-donald-trump-video-deposition.html

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      Remember everyone, this being a civil trial, the standard isn’t “beyond a reasonable doubt”, rather it’s “preponderance of the evidence”.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        And the credibility of that evidence. Is there anything there other than one person saying another person did something? Anything sufficient to reach that judgement? I really don't know, as I haven't been following it.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          George K
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          Trump found liable.

          $5M in damages.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            I guess it was enough.

            Not difficult to believe.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              jon-nyc
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              They didn’t find the rape allegation true, just sexual assault and defamation.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                I don't even find the assault charge plausible.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #17

                  Of course you don’t.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Of course you don’t.

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                    Of course you don’t.

                    No, most people that don't have TDS would say the same thing. As poisoned as the New York jury pool is, I doubt very seriously Trump could get a fair trial.

                    This is bullshit. You know it, I know it.

                    Don't pretend it's something different.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

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                        @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                        How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                        Behavior yes, this particular incident, no.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            If we were talking about Mike Pence then I too would say it is implausible.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

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                              George K
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                              Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                              Agreed, and, this being a civil, not criminal case, the bar is much lower for an unfavorable verdict for Trump.

                              So, does this affect his candicacy?

                              Donald Trump (R - Verified Sexual Predator).

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

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                                  @jon-nyc

                                  true believers will think its a hoax.

                                  Thankfully there are none of the those types in TNCR

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    I think it's quite plausible. But I am naturally suspicious of cases that are not brought until there is political hay and/or money to be made 25-30 years later.

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                                      Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                                      Yeah, how many years down the line?

                                      It doesn't pass the sniff test.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        The most I’ll give you is that it’s plausible she’s making the whole thing up.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          I think it's quite plausible. But I am naturally suspicious of cases that are not brought until there is political hay and/or money to be made 25-30 years later.

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                                          @Mik said in The Trump Trial:

                                          I think it's quite plausible. But I am naturally suspicious of cases that are not brought until there is political hay and/or money to be made 25-30 years later.

                                          I agree with this.

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