The Trump Trial

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand

HIs lawyers certainly understood that. I wonder how they explained it to him.

"Listen, Mr. President. We have to talk about how you....present yourself during questioning. Your remarks tend to be unhinged a bit...off the cuff and could really screw you be damaging."

Even better, I wonder how he reacted.

[Axtremus]

To @jon-nyc's point two posts up:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-donald-trump-video-deposition.html

[jon-nyc]

Remember everyone, this being a civil trial, the standard isn’t “beyond a reasonable doubt”, rather it’s “preponderance of the evidence”.

[Mik]

And the credibility of that evidence. Is there anything there other than one person saying another person did something? Anything sufficient to reach that judgement? I really don't know, as I haven't been following it.

[George K]

Trump found liable.

$5M in damages.

[Mik]

I guess it was enough.

Not difficult to believe.

[jon-nyc]

They didn’t find the rape allegation true, just sexual assault and defamation.

[Jolly]

I don't even find the assault charge plausible.

[jon-nyc]

Of course you don’t.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

Of course you don’t.

No, most people that don't have TDS would say the same thing. As poisoned as the New York jury pool is, I doubt very seriously Trump could get a fair trial.

This is bullshit. You know it, I know it.

Don't pretend it's something different.

[jon-nyc]

How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

Behavior yes, this particular incident, no.

[jon-nyc]

Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

[jon-nyc]

If we were talking about Mike Pence then I too would say it is implausible.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

Agreed, and, this being a civil, not criminal case, the bar is much lower for an unfavorable verdict for Trump.

So, does this affect his candicacy?

Donald Trump (R - Verified Sexual Predator).

[jon-nyc]

No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

[Renauda]

@jon-nyc

true believers will think its a hoax.

Thankfully there are none of the those types in TNCR

[Mik]

I think it's quite plausible. But I am naturally suspicious of cases that are not brought until there is political hay and/or money to be made 25-30 years later.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

Yeah, how many years down the line?

It doesn't pass the sniff test.

[jon-nyc]

The most I’ll give you is that it’s plausible she’s making the whole thing up.