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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #6

    Yeah, but I think there is more than one discrepancy in her story.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #7

      I have not heard much about this either, so dont have a understanding on the evidence if he is guilty or not.

      But, based on his history and comments (as the article above says), I would not be surprised if he were guilty.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #8

        The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

        The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

          The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #9

          @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

          The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand

          HIs lawyers certainly understood that. I wonder how they explained it to him.

          "Listen, Mr. President. We have to talk about how you....present yourself during questioning. Your remarks tend to be unhinged a bit...off the cuff and could really screw you be damaging."

          Even better, I wonder how he reacted.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            The cost of his impetuousness shows up at inconvenient times like this.

            The fact that it would be almost inconceivable for him not to torpedo himself if he took the stand means they had to choose the second worst option, not testify at all.

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            Axtremus
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            #10

            To @jon-nyc's point two posts up:

            https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-donald-trump-video-deposition.html

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #11

              Remember everyone, this being a civil trial, the standard isn’t “beyond a reasonable doubt”, rather it’s “preponderance of the evidence”.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                And the credibility of that evidence. Is there anything there other than one person saying another person did something? Anything sufficient to reach that judgement? I really don't know, as I haven't been following it.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #13

                  Trump found liable.

                  $5M in damages.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    I guess it was enough.

                    Not difficult to believe.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #15

                      They didn’t find the rape allegation true, just sexual assault and defamation.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #16

                        I don't even find the assault charge plausible.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #17

                          Of course you don’t.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Of course you don’t.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                            Of course you don’t.

                            No, most people that don't have TDS would say the same thing. As poisoned as the New York jury pool is, I doubt very seriously Trump could get a fair trial.

                            This is bullshit. You know it, I know it.

                            Don't pretend it's something different.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #19

                              How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

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                                George K
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                                @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                                How is it not even plausible when he copped to the very behavior on tape?

                                Behavior yes, this particular incident, no.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #21

                                  Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #22

                                    If we were talking about Mike Pence then I too would say it is implausible.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Trump Trial:

                                      Yes, but surely if a guys says "I do X to women" and a woman says "He did X to me", its at least plausible.

                                      Agreed, and, this being a civil, not criminal case, the bar is much lower for an unfavorable verdict for Trump.

                                      So, does this affect his candicacy?

                                      Donald Trump (R - Verified Sexual Predator).

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #24

                                        No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          No. Everybody knows he does this kind of thing already, and true believers will think its a hoax.

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
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                                          #25

                                          @jon-nyc

                                          true believers will think its a hoax.

                                          Thankfully there are none of the those types in TNCR

                                          Elbows up!

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