Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child

[Axtremus]

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/29/san-jacinto-county-shooting-kills-5/

A Texan was shooting his AR-15 style rifle in his front yard. Neighbor asked him to stop shooting because the neighbor's baby was trying to sleep. The gunman then shot the neighbors in the head, killing five including an eight year old child.

In this case, the presence of guns did not appear to have made the neighborhood more polite.

[Copper]

It ended the noise complaints.

[Mik]

There's more to this story. Like mental health.

[jon-nyc]

Damn.

All five victims were shot in the head, he said. Two of the women who were killed were found lying on top of the surviving young children in a bedroom, “trying to protect them,” Capers told The Post by phone from the scene.

[George K]

Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting his Glock?

[Mik]

Unlikely. It’s not the gun but the willingness to use it.

[89th]

Someone shooting a gun is probably not someone I want to ask to be quiet.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

It’s not the gun but the willingness to use it.

If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter.

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting his Glock?

Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting a water pistol?

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

There's more to this story. Like mental health.

It is a possibility that mental health maybe a part of the story.

It is a certainty that there would not be a story at all if there wasn't a gun.

[Copper]

@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

blah, blah, blah

[Axtremus]

@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

[Copper]

@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

There is still such a thing as "broken gun" where the gun matters not.

[Jolly]

What if the father had also been armed?

Just as a thought exercise...

[Jolly]

But back to reality...

I suspect at the bottom of this is a mental health issue. It's going to be a very contentious debate defining at what stage of mental illness one cannot own firearms (right now, you have to be adjudicated mentally ill), but that's going to be the common ground between the gun grabbers and the 2nd Amendment guys.

[George K]

"Texan Illegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."

FIFY

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

"Texan Illegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."

FIFY

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.

Watch this story die the death of a woodpecker in the MSM....

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

Well, well, well...Tell us again how well that open border thing is working out for you.

While you're at it, might want to explain it to the victim's family...

[Jolly]

BTW, some outlets are reporting the shooter was deported three times, not just once.

[Jolly]

And...Deputies had already been to see the guy about shooting in his yard...

https://abc7chicago.com/amp/francisco-oropeza-cleveland-texas-shooting-shooter/13195996/

Why didn't the deputies know he was an illegal?