Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 20:11 last edited by
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/29/san-jacinto-county-shooting-kills-5/
A Texan was shooting his AR-15 style rifle in his front yard. Neighbor asked him to stop shooting because the neighbor's baby was trying to sleep. The gunman then shot the neighbors in the head, killing five including an eight year old child.
In this case, the presence of guns did not appear to have made the neighborhood more polite.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 20:45 last edited by
It ended the noise complaints.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 21:21 last edited by Mik
There's more to this story. Like mental health.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 21:39 last edited by
Damn.
All five victims were shot in the head, he said. Two of the women who were killed were found lying on top of the surviving young children in a bedroom, “trying to protect them,” Capers told The Post by phone from the scene.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 23:15 last edited by
Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting his Glock?
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wrote on 29 Apr 2023, 23:23 last edited by Mik
Unlikely. It’s not the gun but the willingness to use it.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:12 last edited by
Someone shooting a gun is probably not someone I want to ask to be quiet.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:29 last edited by
@Mik said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
It’s not the gun but the willingness to use it.
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:31 last edited by
@George-K said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting his Glock?
Would the result have been any different if he had been shooting a water pistol?
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:34 last edited by
@Mik said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
There's more to this story. Like mental health.
It is a possibility that mental health maybe a part of the story.
It is a certainty that there would not be a story at all if there wasn't a gun.
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@Mik said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
It’s not the gun but the willingness to use it.
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter.
wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:43 last edited by@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
blah, blah, blah
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@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
blah, blah, blah
wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 01:49 last edited by@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.
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@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.
wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 02:08 last edited by@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.
There is still such a thing as "broken gun" where the gun matters not.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 12:17 last edited by
What if the father had also been armed?
Just as a thought exercise...
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 12:21 last edited by
But back to reality...
I suspect at the bottom of this is a mental health issue. It's going to be a very contentious debate defining at what stage of mental illness one cannot own firearms (right now, you have to be adjudicated mentally ill), but that's going to be the common ground between the gun grabbers and the 2nd Amendment guys.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 22:45 last edited by
"
TexanIllegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."FIFY
Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.
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TexanIllegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."FIFY
Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.
wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 22:47 last edited by@George-K said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
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TexanIllegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."FIFY
Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.
Watch this story die the death of a woodpecker in the MSM....
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@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.
wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 22:48 last edited by@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
@Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
@Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:
If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter
If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter
Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.
Well, well, well...Tell us again how well that open border thing is working out for you.
While you're at it, might want to explain it to the victim's family...
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 23:18 last edited by
BTW, some outlets are reporting the shooter was deported three times, not just once.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2023, 23:22 last edited by
And...Deputies had already been to see the guy about shooting in his yard...
https://abc7chicago.com/amp/francisco-oropeza-cleveland-texas-shooting-shooter/13195996/
Why didn't the deputies know he was an illegal?