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Last night in Chicago

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    kluurs
    wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 15:18 last edited by
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    The balance will turn. The police have been "tamed". The kids know it. Better to have a 100 rioters loot and destroy property than to have one cop injure one teen. Once things go too far, people will want a bit more of a police state where it is understood that order will be preserved - and the price will be occasional police overreaction. Perfection is not to be expected of humans.

    Sadly, we live in a time when no person in their right mind would want to be a police officer - all downside. That's part of the challenge for Chicago. How do you identify good people foolish enough to want the job?

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    • G George K
      17 Apr 2023, 15:05

      @Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:

      First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,

      FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.

      repeat offenders.

      I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.

      Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.

      The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 16:00 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Last night in Chicago:

      @Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:

      First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,

      FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.

      repeat offenders.

      I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.

      Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.

      The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.

      In Jefferson Parish, they housed inmates in tents. They had problems, but not because of the tents. I talked with the guy sent by the state to straighten out the behavior problems...He narrowed it down to two things: lack of exercise and bad food. They put the inmates on voluntary work details...Those gave the guys work, sunshine and fresh air, along with an occasional big treat. Once or twice a month, work details would get fast food burgers or if they were especially good, maybe Popeye's. Inmates wanted to work.

      For the prison food, they upped quantity and quality. They brought in a couple of Angola staff along with a couple of trustee cooks to work with the parish cooks. Gumbo, pork jambalaya, smoked bologna and white beans, spaghetti with hamburger or chicken sauce, pancakes, biscuits & gravy. A truck farm was established and meals were supplemented with fresh produce in season. Inmates were fed pretty well in the morning, a light lunch and heavy in the evening.

      A tired inmate with a full belly, causes less trouble.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
        wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 19:59 last edited by
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        Screenshot 2023-04-17 at 2.59.20 PM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
          wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 23:05 last edited by
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          I thought the Bee was only satire.

          I guess not.

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            Mik
            wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 23:26 last edited by
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            Me too. They’re really just prescient.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • G George K
              17 Apr 2023, 12:48

              The Mayor-elect:

              Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.

              Ben Shapiro comments:

              "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken

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              89th
              wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 02:30 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Last night in Chicago:

              The Mayor-elect:

              Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.

              Ben Shapiro comments:

              "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken

              The news anchor who kept saying "condoning" instead of "condemning"...

              But yes, it's not desperation "to eat" if you are able to wear those shoes and clothes. I do not mean this at all, but... people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,... now if you get someone's order wrong at McDonald's there is an uproar, fight, and a viral video.

              Chicago needs a radical change, it seems, like the Rudy/NYC in the 90s.

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                89th
                wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 02:33 last edited by
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                Check out the video lower in this article, about 7 seconds in. A gang of black people beat a single white woman for being... white. You can hear their comments before they attack her. Imagine if the colors were reversed.

                https://cwbchicago.com/2023/04/video-chicago-large-group-woman-attacked-cta-bus-driver-punched.html

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 11:22 last edited by
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                  Chicago's (outgoing) mayor: "I'm not going to use your language and call it mayhem."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 11:26 last edited by
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                    It's going to take a Detroit Exodus to get these people's attention.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      18 Apr 2023, 11:26

                      It's going to take a Detroit Exodus to get these people's attention.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 11:43 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:

                      It's going to take a Detroit Exodus to get these people's attention.

                      I was talking to a couple of friends about this a few weeks ago. One of them (who lives on the border of Chicago) was somewhat optimistic that it won't happen.

                      This was before the mayoral election, it should be noted.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • 8 89th
                        18 Apr 2023, 02:30

                        @George-K said in Last night in Chicago:

                        The Mayor-elect:

                        Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.

                        Ben Shapiro comments:

                        "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken

                        The news anchor who kept saying "condoning" instead of "condemning"...

                        But yes, it's not desperation "to eat" if you are able to wear those shoes and clothes. I do not mean this at all, but... people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,... now if you get someone's order wrong at McDonald's there is an uproar, fight, and a viral video.

                        Chicago needs a radical change, it seems, like the Rudy/NYC in the 90s.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 16:38 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Last night in Chicago:

                        people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,

                        Yup, people in the US really dont know what it is to not have.

                        I think a lot of "poor" people in the US think that they are poor if they cannot have the latest version of the iPhone.

                        Spend some time in India, or East Timor, or other rural places in Asia to see what poor really means.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 03:27 last edited by
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                          Couple got attacked - police drove off. Can anyone blame them?

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 03:46 last edited by
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                            Jesus.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              19 Apr 2023, 03:27

                              Couple got attacked - police drove off. Can anyone blame them?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 04:32 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:

                              Couple got attacked - police drove off. Can anyone blame them?

                              National Guard. MPs. Team them up with cops in standard policing and rapid response teams. It's worked before, it will work again.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 15:07 last edited by
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                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  19 Apr 2023, 15:07

                                  Link to video

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                                  kluurs
                                  wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 15:33 last edited by
                                  #39

                                  He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.

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                                  • K kluurs
                                    19 Apr 2023, 15:33

                                    He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 15:57 last edited by
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                                    @kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:

                                    He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.

                                    I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      19 Apr 2023, 15:57

                                      @kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:

                                      He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.

                                      I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.

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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 18:41 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Last night in Chicago:

                                      I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.

                                      It's a loss for all of us as the world has plenty of poor, unskilled workers. Both political parties through their policies are doing their part to nurture growth in this group. Society can't sustain that.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 20 Apr 2023, 12:27 last edited by
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                                        The Mayor-elect speaks.

                                        There are rumors of large-scale "youth" gatherings in the Western Suburbs this weekend.

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 20 Apr 2023, 12:32 last edited by
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                                          I hear Florida is nice in the winter...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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