Last night in Chicago
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@Mik said in Last night in Chicago:
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime, especially in certain areas. Zero tolerance for shop-lifting, curfew violations, etc. Arraignment and bail done swiftly, no bail for violent acts. Any parole violations go directly to jail until further review by parole board. Violent crimes will be tried within 180 days of arraignment.
Not enough prison room? Tents work well until quonset huts can be erected. Those buildings are still made by multiple manufacturers and go up screamingly fast...And you can make them long enough for barracks.
Crime rates in the city will drop like a rock. You'll still have crime, but it won't be as much by repeat offenders.
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The balance will turn. The police have been "tamed". The kids know it. Better to have a 100 rioters loot and destroy property than to have one cop injure one teen. Once things go too far, people will want a bit more of a police state where it is understood that order will be preserved - and the price will be occasional police overreaction. Perfection is not to be expected of humans.
Sadly, we live in a time when no person in their right mind would want to be a police officer - all downside. That's part of the challenge for Chicago. How do you identify good people foolish enough to want the job?
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@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
In Jefferson Parish, they housed inmates in tents. They had problems, but not because of the tents. I talked with the guy sent by the state to straighten out the behavior problems...He narrowed it down to two things: lack of exercise and bad food. They put the inmates on voluntary work details...Those gave the guys work, sunshine and fresh air, along with an occasional big treat. Once or twice a month, work details would get fast food burgers or if they were especially good, maybe Popeye's. Inmates wanted to work.
For the prison food, they upped quantity and quality. They brought in a couple of Angola staff along with a couple of trustee cooks to work with the parish cooks. Gumbo, pork jambalaya, smoked bologna and white beans, spaghetti with hamburger or chicken sauce, pancakes, biscuits & gravy. A truck farm was established and meals were supplemented with fresh produce in season. Inmates were fed pretty well in the morning, a light lunch and heavy in the evening.
A tired inmate with a full belly, causes less trouble.
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@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
The Mayor-elect:
Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.
Ben Shapiro comments:
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken
The news anchor who kept saying "condoning" instead of "condemning"...
But yes, it's not desperation "to eat" if you are able to wear those shoes and clothes. I do not mean this at all, but... people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,... now if you get someone's order wrong at McDonald's there is an uproar, fight, and a viral video.
Chicago needs a radical change, it seems, like the Rudy/NYC in the 90s.
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Check out the video lower in this article, about 7 seconds in. A gang of black people beat a single white woman for being... white. You can hear their comments before they attack her. Imagine if the colors were reversed.
https://cwbchicago.com/2023/04/video-chicago-large-group-woman-attacked-cta-bus-driver-punched.html
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It's going to take a Detroit Exodus to get these people's attention.
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@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
It's going to take a Detroit Exodus to get these people's attention.
I was talking to a couple of friends about this a few weeks ago. One of them (who lives on the border of Chicago) was somewhat optimistic that it won't happen.
This was before the mayoral election, it should be noted.
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@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
The Mayor-elect:
Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.
Ben Shapiro comments:
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken
The news anchor who kept saying "condoning" instead of "condemning"...
But yes, it's not desperation "to eat" if you are able to wear those shoes and clothes. I do not mean this at all, but... people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,... now if you get someone's order wrong at McDonald's there is an uproar, fight, and a viral video.
Chicago needs a radical change, it seems, like the Rudy/NYC in the 90s.
@89th said in Last night in Chicago:
people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,
Yup, people in the US really dont know what it is to not have.
I think a lot of "poor" people in the US think that they are poor if they cannot have the latest version of the iPhone.
Spend some time in India, or East Timor, or other rural places in Asia to see what poor really means.
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Couple got attacked - police drove off. Can anyone blame them?
@kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:
Couple got attacked - police drove off. Can anyone blame them?
National Guard. MPs. Team them up with cops in standard policing and rapid response teams. It's worked before, it will work again.
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He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.
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He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.
@kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:
He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.
I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.
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@kluurs said in Last night in Chicago:
He's spot on - the idiocy of the Democratic Party in Chicago is on full display, and the incoming mayor has shown himself to totally miss the issue, but conservatives also contribute by working assiduously to curtail access to contraceptive training and abortions. Once Pro-Life movement wins their moral victory of abstinence only education and a national abortion ban, things will grow exponentially worse. It would be in everyone's interest to free birth control and education. Sadly, both parties are working to make things worse.
I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.
@Horace said in Last night in Chicago:
I agree that abortion is a cultural lose for the right.
It's a loss for all of us as the world has plenty of poor, unskilled workers. Both political parties through their policies are doing their part to nurture growth in this group. Society can't sustain that.
