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    Jolly
    wrote on 28 Mar 2023, 19:16 last edited by
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    I don't think they will publish her whole manifesto, but they let it out she had considered another target.

    That target had armed people on the premises, so she decided not to attack that location.

    https://www.newsweek.com/covenant-school-shooter-audrey-hale-eyed-second-target-police-say-1790702

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 28 Mar 2023, 19:27 last edited by
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      You cannot possibly criticize the response.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • J Jolly
        28 Mar 2023, 17:25

        @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

        if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans

        Apparently she texted (messaged?) a friend saying "I'm going to die today."

        https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooters-chilling-final-messages-to-pal-revealed/

        Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale sent a friend a chilling “suicide note” minutes before slaughtering three children and three adults — writing her: “I’m planning to die today.”

        Hale, 28, messaged Averianna Patton, her former middle school basketball teammate, on Instagram at 9:57 a.m. Monday, NewsChannel 5 reported.

        “So basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today,” Hale wrote, using the name Aiden, according to messages Patton gave the outlet.

        “THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!” wrote Hale, who identified as transgender. “You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die.”

        Hale added: “This is my last goodbye. I love you … See you again in another life.” She signed the missive “Audrey (Aiden).”

        Patton replied: “Audrey! You have so much more life to live. I pray God keeps and covers you.”

        In response, Hale wrote: “I know but I don’t want to live. I’m so sorry. I’m not trying to upset you or get attention. I just need to die. I wanted to tell you first because you are the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen and known all my life.”

        She added: “My family doesn’t know what I’m about to do. One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

        Then kill yourself, darling. Why kill innocent children?

        I'm telling y'all, the devil strides across this earth in cloven hooves...

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        mark
        wrote on 28 Mar 2023, 19:56 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

        Then kill yourself, darling. Why kill innocent children?

        +infinty

        I think about all the crap that pisses me off in this life and it all pales in comparison to this.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 01:49 last edited by
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          Your worst headline of the day

          The Brad

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            29 Mar 2023, 01:49

            Your worst headline of the day

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            George K
            wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 01:50 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad Jesus.

            Wait...

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
              wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 02:11 last edited by
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              @Jolly sorry didn’t know Reddit link/videos aren’t viewable without logging in, or maybe those flagged as mature content

              Yes the police response definitely had an anti-Uvalde tempo to it. Good for them. Especially thinking that they are sweeping the building without knowing about the shooter the way we did. They are hunting room by room, could be an ambush, around any corner, any suspect, how brave you must be…but the lives of children certainly enhances the urgency to a whole different level.

              As I told my wife today, these shootings will always continue. They seek headlines, and they get them. The name, the picture, the manifesto, it all sucks up the media oxygen, of which I’m guilty too. Further, parents worried about this happening to their child? Certainly understandable emotionally but statistically their child is 110x more likely to die while commuting to school than in the school. 110 times more likely. School shootings are ridiculously rare, relative to the cause of student deaths.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 14:27 last edited by Axtremus
                #59

                https://tn.chalkbeat.org/2023/3/28/23661164/nashville-school-shooting-tennessee-covenant-gun-policy-protest-legislature

                "In 2021, [Tennessee] enacted a law that lets most Tennesseans 21 and older carry handguns without first clearing a background check, obtaining a permit, or getting trained on firearms safety. ..."

                No background check, how is the seller to know whether a buyer is a risk to public safety? How can "red flag law" work without background check? How can you tell if there is a red flag if you do not at least check?

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 16:04 last edited by
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                  That applies to carry, not purchase.

                  https://www.tn.gov/tbi/divisions/cjis-division/firearm-background-checks.html

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    29 Mar 2023, 16:04

                    That applies to carry, not purchase.

                    https://www.tn.gov/tbi/divisions/cjis-division/firearm-background-checks.html

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 16:25 last edited by
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                    @Mik , OK that is an important distinction, thanks for calling that out.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 16:29 last edited by
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                      https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-resolution/127

                      The police has yet to determine the motive and already Sen. Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 17:30 last edited by
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                        Twits twill tweet

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 17:50 last edited by
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                          Classic projection, for people who have already self-mutilated in service of their own suicidality. It's really no wonder they have weak behavioral limits, and they think the world is out to get them. Their own psychological universe really is out to get them.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            29 Mar 2023, 16:29

                            https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-resolution/127

                            The police has yet to determine the motive and already Sen. Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 18:16 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                            Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                            Other than symbolic import, does this really matter, considering the perp is dead?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              29 Mar 2023, 18:16

                              @Axtremus said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                              Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                              Other than symbolic import, does this really matter, considering the perp is dead?

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 18:20 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                              @Axtremus said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                              Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                              Other than symbolic import, does this really matter, considering the perp is dead?

                              I believe there is a score card being kept.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 18:29 last edited by
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                                Are there any love crimes?

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 18:35 last edited by
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                                  Because it would stop the next gal that wants to commit mass murder.

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                                  • G George K
                                    29 Mar 2023, 18:16

                                    @Axtremus said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                    Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                                    Other than symbolic import, does this really matter, considering the perp is dead?

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 20:55 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                    Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                                    I have never understood the designation of 'hate crime' as a subcategory of crime. By definition, isn't any crime a hostile act against an individual, and therefore hate-ish? What difference does it make if the crime is committed out of irritation?

                                    Seems like designating an act as a hate crime itself contributes to spreading the hate.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      29 Mar 2023, 17:30

                                      Twits twill tweet

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 21:22 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                      Twits twill tweet

                                      She has resigned.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        29 Mar 2023, 20:55

                                        @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                        Hawley has introduced a bill to condemn the shooting as a “hate crime”.

                                        I have never understood the designation of 'hate crime' as a subcategory of crime. By definition, isn't any crime a hostile act against an individual, and therefore hate-ish? What difference does it make if the crime is committed out of irritation?

                                        Seems like designating an act as a hate crime itself contributes to spreading the hate.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 21:22 last edited by
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                                        @Catseye3 said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                        I have never understood the designation of 'hate crime' as a subcategory of crime. By definition, isn't any crime a hostile act against an individual, and therefore hate-ish? What difference does it make if the crime is committed out of irritation?

                                        Same here.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • M Mik
                                          29 Mar 2023, 18:29

                                          Are there any love crimes?

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 21:28 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                          Are there any love crimes?

                                          The more common phrasing is "crime of passion."

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