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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #11

    Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

    Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

    For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

    Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

    I was only joking

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

      There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

      MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #12

      @Jolly said in Depression II:

      It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

      There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

      Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #13

        A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Mik

          A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #14

          @Mik said in Depression II:

          A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

          I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.

          I was only joking

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            Horace
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            #15

            I dug a big hole and planted a tree yesterday. Today, my back is infused with the happy spirit of rural living.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Jolly
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              #16

              Work will set you free.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Work will set you free.

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #17

                @Jolly said in Depression II:

                Work will set you free.

                It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • MikM Mik

                  @Jolly said in Depression II:

                  Work will set you free.

                  It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

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                  Klaus
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                  #18

                  @Mik said in Depression II:

                  @Jolly said in Depression II:

                  Work will set you free.

                  It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                  That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    Oh?

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #20

                      I believe it was a motto of the 'labor' camps.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #21

                        It's on the gates of Auschwitz

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          Well that escalated quickly.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #23

                            Yes, I knew that. So did Jolly.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              Hence, the quote.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

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                                Rainman
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                                #25

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

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                                • RainmanR Rainman

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                  Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                  Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                  For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                  Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                  This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                  It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #26

                                  @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                  Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                  Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                  For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                  Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                  This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                  It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                  I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                  The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                  The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                  It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                    Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                    Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                    For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                    Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                    This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                    It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                    I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                    The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                    The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                    It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes Very interesting and very interesting pictures.

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