Depression II
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I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
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@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
@Horace said in Depression II:
@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.
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@Horace said in Depression II:
@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.
@LuFins-Dad said in Depression II:
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care
You haven't spent much time in university maths and physics departments, have you?
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It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
I was only joking
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It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
@Jolly said in Depression II:
It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.
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A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.
@Mik said in Depression II:
A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.
I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.
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@Jolly said in Depression II:
Work will set you free.
It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.
@Mik said in Depression II:
@Jolly said in Depression II:
Work will set you free.
It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.
That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".
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It's on the gates of Auschwitz
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Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:
Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way. -
@Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:
Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.@Rainman said in Depression II:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:
Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.
The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.
The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.
It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.
