Woke Disney

[Aqua Letifer]

@Renauda said in Woke Disney:

@Doctor-Phibes

Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.

Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.

Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

[LuFins Dad]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

Fucking hell.

You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

Wait, which balls? Maybe that’s why all the Lost Boys are Girls? The guys didn’t make it?

[LuFins Dad]

Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.

Stop pandering.

[Renauda]

@Aqua-Letifer

He is into classic comedies. Laurel & Hardy, 3 Stooges, Marx Brothers, Abbott and Costello and most recently, Jack Benny. Also really into Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and strangely enough, Keeping Up Appearances and, Time Goes By.

He has just turned 16.

[LuFins Dad]

The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

That's not even Disney, they just bought the rights.

[Mik]

@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

Encanto sucked

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

Encanto sucked

I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

[Mik]

The visuals were great. The story was awful.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

The visuals were great. The story was awful.

Oh but the songs though, Mik, the SONGS!

Lemme tell you something about those fucking songs. Miranda would be unstoppable if he had any discipline. I said what I said.

Hamilton can go fuck itself, too.

[Mik]

I went way humming the scenery, not the songs.

[Copper]

@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

The reason for the changes does bother me.

Yes, yes that is the thing.

[Mik]

Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

[Mik]

I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

That's part of what I mean about the lack of discipline.

That and way too many lines that sound good and make absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. It ATCQ, Faithless, Jurassic 5, J Dilla, De La Soul and even Ren Gill of all people can write clever lyrics without resorting to no-context non-sequiturs, then what the fuck is holding Miranda back?

[Catseye3]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

Beats the Menendez Solution.

[Jolly]

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

I met a transgender named Maria...

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Woke Disney:

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

I met a transgender named Maria...

Well, it's based on Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke

[Mik]

@Jolly said in Woke Disney:

@Mik said in Woke Disney:

I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

I met a transgender named Maria...

Maria...I just met a boy named Maria....