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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #2

    Yes, the idea that somebody who can fly is Indian or that a fairy could possibly be black is completely ridiculous.

    Where's the fucking realism, Disney? No Indians could fly in 1911 Britain! That only happened after the Beatles.

    What's next, talking fucking animals?????

    I was only joking

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    • CopperC Copper

      The new Peter Pan

      Disney is doomed

      Peter Pan is now Indian

      Tinkerbell is black

      The Lost Boys now have girls among them

      Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned

      https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-live-action-peter-pan-trailer-shocks-major-character-changes-diversity-nonsense

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #3

      @Copper said in Woke Disney:

      The new Peter Pan

      Disney is doomed

      Peter Pan is now Indian

      Tinkerbell is black

      The Lost Boys now have girls among them

      Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned

      https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-live-action-peter-pan-trailer-shocks-major-character-changes-diversity-nonsense

      Go woke, go broke.

      Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Copper said in Woke Disney:

        The new Peter Pan

        Disney is doomed

        Peter Pan is now Indian

        Tinkerbell is black

        The Lost Boys now have girls among them

        Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned

        https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-live-action-peter-pan-trailer-shocks-major-character-changes-diversity-nonsense

        Go woke, go broke.

        Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #4

        @Jolly said in Woke Disney:

        Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?

        I'm not gonna touch that tar-baby.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 Online
          89th8 Online
          89th
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          #5

          Link to video

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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            #6

            Fucking hell.

            Please love yourself.

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            • 89th8 Online
              89th8 Online
              89th
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              It's funny Disney has not realized yet, despite the massive negative impact to their revenue stream, that forcing wokeness is not helping to bring in viewers.

              Heck, when Wendy says "you're not all boys" I was half expecting the black girls to say "Umm, we're non-binary, and before I continue I wanted to make a land acknowledgement out of respect for Tiger Lily"

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                Yes, the idea that somebody who can fly is Indian or that a fairy could possibly be black is completely ridiculous.

                Where's the fucking realism, Disney? No Indians could fly in 1911 Britain! That only happened after the Beatles.

                What's next, talking fucking animals?????

                AxtremusA Offline
                AxtremusA Offline
                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                What's next, …

                LGBTQ+ lost boys?

                MikM 1 Reply Last reply
                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Copper said in Woke Disney:

                  The new Peter Pan

                  Disney is doomed

                  Peter Pan is now Indian

                  Tinkerbell is black

                  The Lost Boys now have girls among them

                  Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned

                  https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-live-action-peter-pan-trailer-shocks-major-character-changes-diversity-nonsense

                  Go woke, go broke.

                  Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Jolly said in Woke Disney:

                  Go woke, go broke.

                  Alex Jones vs. Colin Kaepernick, who is woke, who is broke?

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #10

                    Cherry pick, much?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      Fucking hell.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #11

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                      Fucking hell.

                      You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                      Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #12

                        Anyway, as I believe I may have mentioned before, Disney put a fucking gopher in 100 acre wood and gave Winnie the Pooh a fucking colonial accent.

                        You guys didn't complain about that steaming piece of excrement.

                        I was only joking

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                          What's next, …

                          LGBTQ+ lost boys?

                          MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
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                          #13

                          @Axtremus said in Woke Disney:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                          What's next, …

                          LGBTQ+ lost boys?

                          Wait, I thought those were the lost boys.

                          Modern life is so confusing.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            Fucking hell.

                            You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                            Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #14

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            Fucking hell.

                            You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                            Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                            Ok, Ax.

                            I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                            Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.

                            Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                              Fucking hell.

                              You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                              Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                              Ok, Ax.

                              I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                              Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.

                              Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #15

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                              I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                              Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                              Like a said, there's no gophers in England hanging out with the talking teddy bears and psychotic stuffed tiggers.

                              If more people read the actual books perhaps they'd be aware of this.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                                Fucking hell.

                                You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                                Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                                Ok, Ax.

                                I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                                Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.

                                Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.

                                MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by Mik
                                #16

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                                Fucking hell.

                                You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                                Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                                I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                                That, right there.

                                I have no issue with making the characters ethnic. It probably is good for kids to see characters that look like them, although I think that's overrated too. Aren’t we striving for a society where ethic or racial types don’t matter? Nonetheless, if it doesn't compromise the storytelling it's probably ok. But to claim some moral victory is vacuous.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                  #17

                                  Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

                                  Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.

                                  The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Catseye3
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                                    I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                                      I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                                      Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                                      Like a said, there's no gophers in England hanging out with the talking teddy bears and psychotic stuffed tiggers.

                                      If more people read the actual books perhaps they'd be aware of this.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      #19

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                                      I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                                      Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                                      And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

                                        Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.

                                        The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.

                                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        #20

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                                        The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.

                                        That's completely untrue. Can you really not tell the difference between the original stories, what Walt's Disney created, and today's woke injections? You're not just swapping one thing for another.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #21

                                          @Catseye3 said in Woke Disney:

                                          I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.

                                          If you're going to portray ethnic minorities, at least have the decency to use a white actor dressed up to look foreign like they did in the old days.

                                          Honestly, I won't watch this PC stuff, but I don't think Disney has ever been an organization particularly interested in artistic integrity.

                                          I was only joking

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