Woke Disney
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I'm saying today's Disney movies aren't brilliant at all. There's no real storytelling going on. You can see that through their lack of staying power and the fact that they literally have a different playbook they're operating under.
The new stories aren't bad because they're woke. They're bad because the stories are bad, and the woke shit on top of that isn't doing them any favors.Well, that's a different issue. This thread is really about the awfulness of wokeness, not the awfulness of modern Disney.
I haven't watched much Disney of late as my kids are too old, but some of the Pixar stuff that I remember was great - that's not really Disney, perhaps....
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@Copper said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
Pixar
I believe Buzz Lightyear came out
Sorry
That's ok, as long as they don't show his Woody.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.
Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 18:36 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 18:46 last edited by@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
It was an insult.
'Tis the rare person who can create such a label.
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As for Peter Pan, just look at his last name, clearly the guy is Chinese.
Heck, it looks like he’s doing quite well in Taiwan too, not that Taiwan is Neverland.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 18:55 last edited by@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
As for Peter Pan, just look at his last name, clearly the guy is Chinese.
Yeah, that's not what his name means.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 18:58 last edited by
Whatever it used to mean, these days it should mean pan sexual. Unless Disney hates gays.
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@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
As for Peter Pan, just look at his last name, clearly the guy is Chinese.
Yeah, that's not what his name means.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 18:59 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
As for Peter Pan, just look at his last name, clearly the guy is Chinese.
Yeah, that's not what his name means.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 19:07 last edited by@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
I've been called much worse, and by better people.
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@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
I've been called much worse, and by better people.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 19:07 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?
I've been called much worse, and by better people.
Ok, Trump.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 19:08 last edited by
Horace - putting the colon into the colony.
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Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.
The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 22:09 last edited by Renauda 3 Feb 2023, 22:21Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.
Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.
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Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.
Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 22:40 last edited by@Renauda said in Woke Disney:
Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.
Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.
Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 00:14 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 00:16 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Wait, which balls? Maybe that’s why all the Lost Boys are Girls? The guys didn’t make it?
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 00:20 last edited by
Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.
Stop pandering.
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@Renauda said in Woke Disney:
Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.
Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.
Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 01:33 last edited byHe is into classic comedies. Laurel & Hardy, 3 Stooges, Marx Brothers, Abbott and Costello and most recently, Jack Benny. Also really into Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and strangely enough, Keeping Up Appearances and, Time Goes By.
He has just turned 16.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 01:37 last edited by
The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
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The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:12 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
That's not even Disney, they just bought the rights.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:50 last edited by Mik 3 Mar 2023, 02:50@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
Encanto sucked