Woke Disney
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:26 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Feb 2023, 14:28
Yes, the idea that somebody who can fly is Indian or that a fairy could possibly be black is completely ridiculous.
Where's the fucking realism, Disney? No Indians could fly in 1911 Britain! That only happened after the Beatles.
What's next, talking fucking animals?????
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The new Peter Pan
Disney is doomed
Peter Pan is now Indian
Tinkerbell is black
The Lost Boys now have girls among them
Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:43 last edited by@Copper said in Woke Disney:
The new Peter Pan
Disney is doomed
Peter Pan is now Indian
Tinkerbell is black
The Lost Boys now have girls among them
Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned
Go woke, go broke.
Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?
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@Copper said in Woke Disney:
The new Peter Pan
Disney is doomed
Peter Pan is now Indian
Tinkerbell is black
The Lost Boys now have girls among them
Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned
Go woke, go broke.
Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:45 last edited by@Jolly said in Woke Disney:
Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?
I'm not gonna touch that tar-baby.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:47 last edited by
Fucking hell.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:47 last edited by
It's funny Disney has not realized yet, despite the massive negative impact to their revenue stream, that forcing wokeness is not helping to bring in viewers.
Heck, when Wendy says "you're not all boys" I was half expecting the black girls to say "Umm, we're non-binary, and before I continue I wanted to make a land acknowledgement out of respect for Tiger Lily"
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Yes, the idea that somebody who can fly is Indian or that a fairy could possibly be black is completely ridiculous.
Where's the fucking realism, Disney? No Indians could fly in 1911 Britain! That only happened after the Beatles.
What's next, talking fucking animals?????
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@Copper said in Woke Disney:
The new Peter Pan
Disney is doomed
Peter Pan is now Indian
Tinkerbell is black
The Lost Boys now have girls among them
Truly a reflection of the UK in 1911, exactly as JM Barrie envisioned
Go woke, go broke.
Maybe we get a Caucasian Mowgli next?
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:55 last edited by@Jolly said in Woke Disney:
Go woke, go broke.
Alex Jones vs. Colin Kaepernick, who is woke, who is broke?
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:58 last edited by
Cherry pick, much?
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Fucking hell.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:13 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:14 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Feb 2023, 15:16
Anyway, as I believe I may have mentioned before, Disney put a fucking gopher in 100 acre wood and gave Winnie the Pooh a fucking colonial accent.
You guys didn't complain about that steaming piece of excrement.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:16 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
What's next, …
LGBTQ+ lost boys?
Wait, I thought those were the lost boys.
Modern life is so confusing.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:17 last edited by Aqua Letifer 3 Feb 2023, 15:18@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.
Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.
Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:20 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Feb 2023, 15:22@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
Like a said, there's no gophers in England hanging out with the talking teddy bears and psychotic stuffed tiggers.
If more people read the actual books perhaps they'd be aware of this.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
Ok, Ax.
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Another weird thing is that the point of the story's gotten lost in the sauce over the decades. Pan's not that great of a guy. The lost boys dressed up as animals because they lived like animals. There's a reason Wendy, John and Michael went home and didn't stay in Neverland.
Woke stories idolizing Pan are oddly prophetic if you know anything about the story and woke ideology.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:21 last edited by Mik 3 Feb 2023, 15:27@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
Fucking hell.
You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.
Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
That, right there.
I have no issue with making the characters ethnic. It probably is good for kids to see characters that look like them, although I think that's overrated too. Aren’t we striving for a society where ethic or racial types don’t matter? Nonetheless, if it doesn't compromise the storytelling it's probably ok. But to claim some moral victory is vacuous.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:25 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Feb 2023, 15:26
Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.
The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.
I was only joking
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wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:26 last edited by
I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
Like a said, there's no gophers in England hanging out with the talking teddy bears and psychotic stuffed tiggers.
If more people read the actual books perhaps they'd be aware of this.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:26 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
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Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.
The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:29 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.
That's completely untrue. Can you really not tell the difference between the original stories, what Walt's Disney created, and today's woke injections? You're not just swapping one thing for another.
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I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.
wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:30 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Woke Disney:
I do have an issue with departing from the author's vision. S/he created it; producers have a moral obligation to remain faithful to the author's intention. And like Aqua said, to do otherwise for PC is obscene. If movie makers want to create movies featuring other races, have at it, no problem, but let 'em write a new story.
If you're going to portray ethnic minorities, at least have the decency to use a white actor dressed up to look foreign like they did in the old days.
Honestly, I won't watch this PC stuff, but I don't think Disney has ever been an organization particularly interested in artistic integrity.
