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Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    I suppose this is a bit of a follow-up to https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/8028

    Amid Virus Surge, Republicans Abruptly Urge Masks Despite Trump’s Resistance
    Masks became a political cause for some in the early months of the pandemic. A growing set of Republican leaders are suddenly pushing Americans to wear them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/us/coronavirus-masks.html

    ‘...
    Vice President Mike Pence has abruptly begun regularly wearing and recommending a mask. Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona, facing an uncontrolled outbreak of the coronavirus in his state, made a plea this week: “Arm yourself with a mask.” And Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming tweeted a photograph of her father, the former vice president, wearing a fleece vest, cowboy hat and pale blue surgical mask covering his face. “Dick Cheney says WEAR A MASK,” she wrote, adding the hashtag “#realmenwearmasks.”

    On Tuesday, Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the Republican chairman of the Senate Health Committee, appealed to the president himself: Wear a mask, Mr. Alexander implored, and end a dangerous partisan divide over the practice, with some Republicans shunning masks because Mr. Trump has declined to wear them.
    ...’

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      Catseye3
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      Trump is immobilized. His great psychological bugbear is the fear of incurring blame; he is incapable of it. He's not so much refusing to wear a mask for political reasons as a matter of principle, but because he is faced with a situation he can't fix, or appear to be fixing, and for which he is being blamed -- rightly or wrongly.

      He's frozen.

      It is significant that Pence is wearing a mask.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        Trump is immobilized. His great psychological bugbear is the fear of incurring blame; he is incapable of it. He's not so much refusing to wear a mask for political reasons as a matter of principle, but because he is faced with a situation he can't fix, or appear to be fixing, and for which he is being blamed -- rightly or wrongly.

        He's frozen.

        It is significant that Pence is wearing a mask.

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        @Catseye3 said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

        Trump is immobilized. His great psychological bugbear is incurring blame; he is incapable of it.
        He's not so much refusing to wear a mask for political reasons as a matter of principle, but because he is faced with a situation he can't fix, or appear to be fixing, and for which he is being blamed -- rightly or wrongly.

        He's frozen.

        It is significdant that Pence is wearing a mask.

        Trump said yesterday he would have no problem wearing a mask in certain circumstances.

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          Which is what he has said all along. Honestly, if you are not smart enough to discern that the guy and those around him are frequently tested and safe and that you do not have that level of protection I don’t know what to tell you.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Nobody wants to hear that. It doesn't fit the media narrative.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • MikM Mik

                Which is what he has said all along. Honestly, if you are not smart enough to discern that the guy and those around him are frequently tested and safe and that you do not have that level of protection I don’t know what to tell you.

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                @Mik What does "frequently tested and safe" mean? And if you believe everything coming out of the White House just because it's what you want to hear, then I don't know what to tell you.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                  It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

                  But he didn't! Now he needs to change their minds! He needs to provide informed leadership! What his base believes isn't carved in stone.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                    It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

                    True but more non mask wearers are likely anti Trump and are more responsible for the spread.

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @Mik What does "frequently tested and safe" mean? And if you believe everything coming out of the White House just because it's what you want to hear, then I don't know what to tell you.

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                      @Catseye3 said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                      @Mik What does "frequently tested and safe" mean? And if you believe everything coming out of the White House just because it's what you want to hear, then I don't know what to tell you.

                      Sorry, that was not directed at you Cats, but the collective you.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Catseye3 said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                        @Mik What does "frequently tested and safe" mean? And if you believe everything coming out of the White House just because it's what you want to hear, then I don't know what to tell you.

                        Sorry, that was not directed at you Cats, but the collective you.

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                        @Mik

                        @Mik said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                        Sorry, that was not directed at you Cats, but the collective you.

                        Hokay, and back at you.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                          It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

                          Then I said: But he didn't! Now he needs to change their minds! He needs to provide informed leadership!

                          I forgot to add: I think he cannot do that, because that would require admitting he was wrong, and that is the very thing he cannot do, because in his mind that woujld be leaving himself open to blame. He can't go forward, but he can't go back because events are overrunning him. He's stuck.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            @jon-nyc said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                            It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

                            True but more non mask wearers are likely anti Trump and are more responsible for the spread.

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                            @Loki said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                            @jon-nyc said in Prominent Republicans Now Promote Wearing Masks:

                            It’s not his mask wearing per se that’s important. It’s the sizeable portion of his base that is hostile to the idea. That group could have been much smaller than it is today had he adopted the right attitude early and consistently.

                            True but more non mask wearers are likely anti Trump and are more responsible for the spread.

                            Right there... The majority of the folks I am seeing not wearing masks are definitely not Trump supporters.

                            The Brad

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                              Horace
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                              Gosh how can you tell?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Mik
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                                No MAGA hats.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Copper
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                                  And no guns

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                                    Larry
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                                    When one of your biggest concerns is whether or not Trump wears a mask, it's time to face the fact that you (the collective "you") need to leave the decision making to those who have not yet lost their minds.

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                                      Catseye3
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                                      When you are unable to discern that the mask wearing issue is symptomatic of a much bigger problem, it's time to face the fact that you need to leave the decision making to those who have the necessary scope.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        Mask wearing or not mask wearing is not indicative of a damned thing.

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                                          It's poor leadership, Larry.

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