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Chinese Spy Balloon

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  • MikM Mik

    Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

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    @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

    Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

    The article mentions that there were precedents of China floating “spy balloons” across the USA in the past. Pretty sure the intelligence community also look into the possibilities of this balloon being from other countries, just not reported as such in the news articles cited so far.

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      More update, with statements from China’s government representative and U.S. congresspersons: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953

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        Another one over Canada?

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-chinese-spy-balloon-spotted-b2274974.html

        Canada’s national defence confirmed on Friday a potential second incident of a suspected spy balloon and said that officials are monitoring it.

        “A high-altitude surveillance balloon was detected and its movements are being actively tracked by [North American Aerospace Defense Command] NORAD,” the national defence said in a statement.

        “Canadians are safe and Canada is taking steps to ensure the security of its airspace, including the monitoring of a potential second incident,” the statement added.

        Officials from NORAD, the Canadian Armed Forces, the Department of National Defence, and other partners have been assessing the situation and working in close coordination, it said.

        So, why not shoot it down? It's over remote areas of both countries. Debris would be minimal. And, if just has cameras on board, what danger does it pose?

        If it's just cameras....

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Away
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          Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Or just shoot a laser at it LOL

            China says it's a weather balloon that drifted off course. Rolling eyes...

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            • MikM Mik

              Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

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              @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

              Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

              I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

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                I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                • markM mark

                  I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                  @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                    @Axtremus No, it's not like that at all. Isn't NORAD and the FAA watching our airspace all the way to space? I was always under the impression that they were doing that since before I was even born.

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                      I assume the balloon is dropping viruses as it goes.

                      It is more efficient than bats.

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                        NRO: Red Zeppelin.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                          Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                          I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

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                          @Axtremus said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                          @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:
                          Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                          I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

                          OK, so put a tailhook on a U2.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            It's floating around 60,000 feet. The F15 will be fine.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                They got a close up.

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                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  They got a close up.

                                  F2109289-BB2E-4724-A67F-639E69D334E0.jpeg

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                                  @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                  They got a close up.

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                                  The Brad

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                                    Yeah totally an accidental weather balloon.

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                                      And nuclear sites of interest:

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                                        I've seen some of those missile sites, there is nothing to see, at least for the Titan III that are all underground.
                                        And if there were something to see, it's been seen decades ago. Matter of fact, I think there have been several forum members that have toured Davis-Monthan as well as tours of the missile museums.

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                                          I'm thinking the main reason to do this isn't actually to gather intelligence, but to send some kind of message and also to see how the US reacts.

                                          I was only joking

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