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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #8

    My understanding is that NORAD has been tracking it for sometime since it was first spotted over the Aleutians. I would guess MilInt are keen on letting it transmit its data for decryption purposes. Suffice to say though its presence and activities are keeping the spooks busy. They’ll take it out when the appropriate time arrives.

    At least they spotted it before Georgio Tsoukolos and his team of ancient astronaut theorists did.

    Elbows up!

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      #9

      This one has embedded picture of the balloon:

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chinese-spy-balloon-surveilling-us-senior-official/story?id=96860718

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      • George KG Offline
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        #10

        Somebody commented:

        The Pentagon is tracking it but not taking any action due to the risks involved.

        Of shooting down a balloon.

        Over Montana.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          #11

          Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

            AxtremusA Offline
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            @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

            Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

            The article mentions that there were precedents of China floating “spy balloons” across the USA in the past. Pretty sure the intelligence community also look into the possibilities of this balloon being from other countries, just not reported as such in the news articles cited so far.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #13

              More update, with statements from China’s government representative and U.S. congresspersons: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953

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              • George KG Offline
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                #14

                Another one over Canada?

                https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-chinese-spy-balloon-spotted-b2274974.html

                Canada’s national defence confirmed on Friday a potential second incident of a suspected spy balloon and said that officials are monitoring it.

                “A high-altitude surveillance balloon was detected and its movements are being actively tracked by [North American Aerospace Defense Command] NORAD,” the national defence said in a statement.

                “Canadians are safe and Canada is taking steps to ensure the security of its airspace, including the monitoring of a potential second incident,” the statement added.

                Officials from NORAD, the Canadian Armed Forces, the Department of National Defence, and other partners have been assessing the situation and working in close coordination, it said.

                So, why not shoot it down? It's over remote areas of both countries. Debris would be minimal. And, if just has cameras on board, what danger does it pose?

                If it's just cameras....

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #15

                  Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    Or just shoot a laser at it LOL

                    China says it's a weather balloon that drifted off course. Rolling eyes...

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                      Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                      I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

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                      • markM Offline
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                        I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                        • markM mark

                          I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                            @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                            #20

                            @Axtremus No, it's not like that at all. Isn't NORAD and the FAA watching our airspace all the way to space? I was always under the impression that they were doing that since before I was even born.

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                              I assume the balloon is dropping viruses as it goes.

                              It is more efficient than bats.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                NRO: Red Zeppelin.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                  Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                                  I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  @Axtremus said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                  @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:
                                  Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                                  I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

                                  OK, so put a tailhook on a U2.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    It's floating around 60,000 feet. The F15 will be fine.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        They got a close up.

                                        F2109289-BB2E-4724-A67F-639E69D334E0.jpeg

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          They got a close up.

                                          F2109289-BB2E-4724-A67F-639E69D334E0.jpeg

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                                          @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                          They got a close up.

                                          F2109289-BB2E-4724-A67F-639E69D334E0.jpeg

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