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    George K
    wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 12:10 last edited by
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    Somebody commented:

    The Pentagon is tracking it but not taking any action due to the risks involved.

    Of shooting down a balloon.

    Over Montana.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 12:12 last edited by
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      Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        3 Feb 2023, 12:12

        Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 13:38 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

        Why, when we are in a proxy war at with Russia, do we believe it’s Chinese? Not Russian, not North Korean?

        The article mentions that there were precedents of China floating “spy balloons” across the USA in the past. Pretty sure the intelligence community also look into the possibilities of this balloon being from other countries, just not reported as such in the news articles cited so far.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 13:45 last edited by
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          More update, with statements from China’s government representative and U.S. congresspersons: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953

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            George K
            wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 13:46 last edited by
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            Another one over Canada?

            https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-chinese-spy-balloon-spotted-b2274974.html

            Canada’s national defence confirmed on Friday a potential second incident of a suspected spy balloon and said that officials are monitoring it.

            “A high-altitude surveillance balloon was detected and its movements are being actively tracked by [North American Aerospace Defense Command] NORAD,” the national defence said in a statement.

            “Canadians are safe and Canada is taking steps to ensure the security of its airspace, including the monitoring of a potential second incident,” the statement added.

            Officials from NORAD, the Canadian Armed Forces, the Department of National Defence, and other partners have been assessing the situation and working in close coordination, it said.

            So, why not shoot it down? It's over remote areas of both countries. Debris would be minimal. And, if just has cameras on board, what danger does it pose?

            If it's just cameras....

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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              Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                89th
                wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 14:58 last edited by
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                Or just shoot a laser at it LOL

                China says it's a weather balloon that drifted off course. Rolling eyes...

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                  3 Feb 2023, 14:57

                  Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 15:17 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                  Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                  I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

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                    mark
                    wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 16:55 last edited by
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                    I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                    • M mark
                      3 Feb 2023, 16:55

                      I find it hilarious that such a low tech device can get around all of the technology we have.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 17:34 last edited by
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                      @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                        3 Feb 2023, 17:34

                        @mark It's like saying a hand written note passed from person to person can evade the most advanced of network firewalls and cyber blockades. :man-shrugging:

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                        mark
                        wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 17:49 last edited by
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                        @Axtremus No, it's not like that at all. Isn't NORAD and the FAA watching our airspace all the way to space? I was always under the impression that they were doing that since before I was even born.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 17:50 last edited by
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                          I assume the balloon is dropping viruses as it goes.

                          It is more efficient than bats.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 18:06 last edited by
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                            NRO: Red Zeppelin.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              3 Feb 2023, 15:17

                              @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                              Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                              I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 18:12 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                              @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:
                              Put a tailhook on an F15 (ceiling 65K) and bring it down.

                              I thought I read somewhere that the balloon was (is?) floating at a very high altitude, possibly higher than can be reached by conventional military aircrafts.

                              OK, so put a tailhook on a U2.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 18:34 last edited by
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                                It's floating around 60,000 feet. The F15 will be fine.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 18:48 last edited by
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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 19:24 last edited by
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                                    They got a close up.

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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      3 Feb 2023, 19:24

                                      They got a close up.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 21:48 last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                      They got a close up.

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                                      The Brad

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 22:37 last edited by
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                                        Yeah totally an accidental weather balloon.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 22:39 last edited by
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                                          And nuclear sites of interest:

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