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USA is a "no-fly" zone

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  • MikM Mik

    Watching that this morning. This critical system doesn’t have redundancy?

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    George K
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    #5

    @Mik said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

    Watching that this morning. This critical system doesn’t have redundancy?

    Good point. After the Southwest debacle, it looks like the entire air transportation system is just a bunch of stuff kludged together.

    It works fine, until it doesn't.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

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      @Horace said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

      If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

      Include bird lives.

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      • 89th8 89th

        @Horace said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

        If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

        Include bird lives.

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        George K
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        #7

        @89th said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

        @Horace said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

        If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

        Include bird lives.

        And yet, you're silent about windmills.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @89th said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

          @Horace said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

          If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

          Include bird lives.

          And yet, you're silent about windmills.

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          #8

          @George-K said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

          @89th said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

          @Horace said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

          If it saves a single human life, we need to keep those planes grounded indefinitely.

          Include bird lives.

          And yet, you're silent about windmills.

          Link to video

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            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-flights-grounded-faa-outage-rcna65243

            “At around 8:50 a.m., [the FAA] announced that the ground stop had been lifted and that normal air traffic operations were resuming gradually across the country.”

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            • MikM Offline
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              #10

              Air troubles cascade like nothing else. Today will be
              anything but normal.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                FAA: Our systems are down, what do you suggest?
                ChatGPT IT: Have you tried restarting it?

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                • MikM Offline
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                  ChatGPT - a perpetual meme machine is born.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    Two thoughts:

                    Any chance it’s a hack?

                    Imagine being a poor southwest passenger from December who was finally leaving on his rebooked flight today…

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Two thoughts:

                      Any chance it’s a hack?

                      Imagine being a poor southwest passenger from December who was finally leaving on his rebooked flight today…

                      George KG Offline
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                      @jon-nyc said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

                      Any chance it’s a hack?

                      Of course, FAA is saying it's not. Of course.

                      Perhaps the cause is a bit more mundane:

                      IMG_0225.jpg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
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                          Buttgig for President!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            #17

                            https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3814327-schumer-says-its-time-to-clear-the-runway-for-faa-administrators-confirmation/amp/

                            Dems have control of the Senate when the last FAA chief quit. Don't know what is taking them so long to confirm the next FAA chief.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3814327-schumer-says-its-time-to-clear-the-runway-for-faa-administrators-confirmation/amp/

                              Dems have control of the Senate when the last FAA chief quit. Don't know what is taking them so long to confirm the next FAA chief.

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                              @Axtremus said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

                              Don't know what is taking them so long

                              Maybe they're praying for inspiration?

                              Screenshot 2023-01-16 at 12.57.10 PM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Axtremus said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

                                Don't know what is taking them so long

                                Maybe they're praying for inspiration?

                                Screenshot 2023-01-16 at 12.57.10 PM.png

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                                @George-K, the timeline doesn't work. The last FAA chief resigned in March 2022. The picture you posted of Schumer praying was taken in June 2020.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @George-K, the timeline doesn't work. The last FAA chief resigned in March 2022. The picture you posted of Schumer praying was taken in June 2020.

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                                  George K
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                                  @Axtremus thanks for the timeline. The photo was tended as an illustration, not history. Since Schumer has a history of devoted prayer, and I have no reason to think that this was a political stunt, I can only assume that he has continued his reverent tradition.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1150196884/faa-notam-flights-deleted-files

                                    The contractors did it!
                                    (It's like the IT version of "the butler did it.")

                                    https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-notam-statement

                                    A preliminary FAA review of last week’s outage of the Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) system determined that contract personnel unintentionally deleted files while working to correct synchronization between the live primary database and a backup database. ...

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #22

                                      Tucker Carlson says (sit down, if you're standing)...

                                      IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

                                      Link to video

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Tucker Carlson says (sit down, if you're standing)...

                                        IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

                                        Link to video

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @George-K said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

                                        Tucker Carlson says (sit down, if you're standing)...

                                        IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

                                        1f82c32a-5e6a-457e-a75c-17030b1b2af9-image.png

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1150196884/faa-notam-flights-deleted-files

                                          The contractors did it!
                                          (It's like the IT version of "the butler did it.")

                                          https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-notam-statement

                                          A preliminary FAA review of last week’s outage of the Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) system determined that contract personnel unintentionally deleted files while working to correct synchronization between the live primary database and a backup database. ...

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                                          #24

                                          @Axtremus said in USA is a "no-fly" zone:

                                          https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1150196884/faa-notam-flights-deleted-files

                                          The contractors did it!
                                          (It's like the IT version of "the butler did it.")

                                          https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-notam-statement

                                          A preliminary FAA review of last week’s outage of the Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) system determined that contract personnel unintentionally deleted files while working to correct synchronization between the live primary database and a backup database. ...

                                          You knew that was going to be the end result. My question is why would a contractor be in a position to do this?

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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