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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #58

    How do they estimate it without measuring O2?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • OptimisticO Optimistic

      @Rich
      That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

      Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

      I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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      Rich
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      #59

      @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

      @Rich
      That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

      Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

      I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

      I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

      I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

      So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

      Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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      • L Loki

        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

        Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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        Rich
        wrote on last edited by
        #60

        @Loki said in The workout thread:

        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

        Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

        Truthfully, I definitely run my long runs harder than I need to....and though it feels comfortable, probably harder than I should.

        If you have a source for good training plans--I'm all ears!

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          Klaus
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          #61

          @Rich that is a fantastic time for such a long run. I wish I could do that. If I'd run with that tempo, the run would be over for me after a single mile. Running a half-marathon is low-key on my agenda, but I wouldn't even dream of something faster than 2h. I'm surprised, though, that you burned only 1349 Cal. You must have a rather low body weight.

          I sent you a follow request on Strava.

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          • RichR Rich

            @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

            @Rich
            That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

            Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

            I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

            I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

            I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

            So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

            Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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            Optimistic
            wrote on last edited by
            #62

            @Rich
            Yes, I was a little surprised the defer option was offered--and very thankful! They are also offering the option to run the race virtually and send you all the swag you would have gotten this year, but I wasn´t really feeling that option.

            I bet switching to roads has helped you with your faster pace. I love the trail running, but it definitely encourages a much more leisurely pace as you jump over roots and and logs and such.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #63

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              So I have 3 pulse/Ox devices at home; 1 for me, 1 I'm mailing to my folks, 1 as a bonus they mailed me by mistake. I used all 3 to compare against the FitBit. Turns out the latter under-reports somewhat, especially with higher numbers; it was off by about 10bpm when I was closer to a maximum. The 3 pulse/Ox devices were all consistent. So looks like I'm at about 170 instead of 165.

              Either way I don't much care. The actual numbers don't matter to me. I'm just trying to get them to increase.

              Please love yourself.

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                MainerMikeBrown
                wrote on last edited by
                #64

                I haven't taken part in any sports in years, to be honest.

                I used to play baseball back in high school during the 1990's. I was terrible at it.

                I don't have any talent for football and basketball either.

                And my tennis and bowling skills are nothing special at best.

                lol

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #65

                  That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                  I bought a power meter today.

                  Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                    I bought a power meter today.

                    Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                    mark
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #66

                    @Klaus which power meter? Link?

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                    • KlausK Offline
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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                      #67

                      @mark : 4iiii Precision Power Meter.
                      https://shop.4iiii.com/collections/power-meters/products/precision-factory-install

                      There was an offer to grab one for 250 Euro. I couldn't resist anymore.

                      It's a 105 crank. I have an Ultegra groupset, but the Ultegra one would have been 100 Euros more and the only difference is 3 grams of weight or something.

                      Can't wait to try it. I love data.

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                        mark
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #68

                        3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                        • markM mark

                          3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #69

                          @mark I don't care all that much about weight or "aero". I care about primarily about fitness gains and only secondarily about speed gains paid with money 🙂

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #70

                            First test. My FTP seems to be in the "sucks" to "looser" range. I'll have to test more thoroughly. And then on to structured training rides.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #71

                              Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                              I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

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                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

                                F8FEB50D-43C3-43C7-B1EC-EA74C3891125.jpeg

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #72

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                I have a kind of "default" route that takes about 75min. The nice thing about driving the same route often is that you have a benchmark to compare with. (That said, with a powermeter it should be easier to compare efforts across different routes).

                                But when I have more time, I often pick new and longer routes. I often pick routes from Komoot. If it weren't for Corona, I'd also ride with a couple of other guys every few weeks.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                                  #73

                                  Another short test ride from this evening. My goal was to keep an average above 230W.

                                  It's really rather different to train with a power meter.

                                  It's like having a slave driver who permanently whips you whenever you taper off with your power. I like it.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    Sounds pretty cool. I still haven't made any progress on my jump-rope, sadly. Maybe I'm just too clumsy.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #74

                                    @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                    Sounds pretty cool. I still haven't made any progress on my jump-rope, sadly. Maybe I'm just too clumsy.

                                    @Klaus Nonsense, my friend! You can be an oafish, goofy white guy and still make it work for you. Observe:

                                    Link to video

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Klaus
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                                      #75

                                      I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #76

                                        @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                        I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

                                        Nah, just practice. And the above is total crap, I have shin splints right now so "form" is right out the window.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Rich
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                                          #77

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                                          So this has been sort of a new addition to the running hobby. I'm using site called 'CityStrides' to keep track of all the roads I've run in my (and surrounding) towns. You can connect it to Strava, MapMyWutever, etc, and it creates a 'life map' for you.

                                          It's interesting how many roads you find in your own town that you've never been on. Ultimately, over the next few weeks/months, I plan to have run every road in my town.

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