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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #52

    I've used a chest strap and find that it pretty much agrees with the Fitbit.

    I think the best way to determine your actual maximum heart rate is to work out until you're just on the verge of a coronary, but don't actually have one, so you'll know for next time. If you do have one, you'll know for a short period of time with absolute certainty what the maximum is, but that shows Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle in action, since the measurement will have modified your maximum heart rate, possibly to zero.

    I was only joking

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    • RichR Rich

      Morning long run:

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      Hoping that some of the fall marathons will actually take place....Now that I’m 40, the qualifying time for Boston have gotten at least somewhat more realistic.

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      Optimistic
      wrote on last edited by
      #53

      @Rich
      That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

      Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

      I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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      • OptimisticO Optimistic

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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        Loki
        wrote on last edited by
        #54

        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

        Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

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          The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #55

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

          63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

          The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

          Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #56

            Part of it is, yeah.

            Please love yourself.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

              63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

              The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

              Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

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              Loki
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              #57

              @jon-nyc said in The workout thread:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

              63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

              The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

              Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

              That is VO2max. There are charts by age you can google. Mine says it puts me at the age of a 20 year old. Really low resting heart rate too. I had a vascular study of my carotid, heart and leg veins via ultrasound after a friend in shape died of a stroke in his sleep. Probably worth it as you age.

              VO2 max is considered the best measurement of aerobic fitness.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #58

                How do they estimate it without measuring O2?

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • OptimisticO Optimistic

                  @Rich
                  That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                  Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                  I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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                  Rich
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #59

                  @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                  @Rich
                  That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                  Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                  I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                  I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

                  I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

                  So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

                  Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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                  • L Loki

                    @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                    @Rich
                    That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                    Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                    I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                    Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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                    Rich
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #60

                    @Loki said in The workout thread:

                    @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                    @Rich
                    That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                    Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                    I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                    Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

                    Truthfully, I definitely run my long runs harder than I need to....and though it feels comfortable, probably harder than I should.

                    If you have a source for good training plans--I'm all ears!

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                    • KlausK Offline
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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                      #61

                      @Rich that is a fantastic time for such a long run. I wish I could do that. If I'd run with that tempo, the run would be over for me after a single mile. Running a half-marathon is low-key on my agenda, but I wouldn't even dream of something faster than 2h. I'm surprised, though, that you burned only 1349 Cal. You must have a rather low body weight.

                      I sent you a follow request on Strava.

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                      • RichR Rich

                        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                        @Rich
                        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                        I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

                        I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

                        So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

                        Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

                        OptimisticO Offline
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                        Optimistic
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #62

                        @Rich
                        Yes, I was a little surprised the defer option was offered--and very thankful! They are also offering the option to run the race virtually and send you all the swag you would have gotten this year, but I wasn´t really feeling that option.

                        I bet switching to roads has helped you with your faster pace. I love the trail running, but it definitely encourages a much more leisurely pace as you jump over roots and and logs and such.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #63

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                          So I have 3 pulse/Ox devices at home; 1 for me, 1 I'm mailing to my folks, 1 as a bonus they mailed me by mistake. I used all 3 to compare against the FitBit. Turns out the latter under-reports somewhat, especially with higher numbers; it was off by about 10bpm when I was closer to a maximum. The 3 pulse/Ox devices were all consistent. So looks like I'm at about 170 instead of 165.

                          Either way I don't much care. The actual numbers don't matter to me. I'm just trying to get them to increase.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            MainerMikeBrown
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #64

                            I haven't taken part in any sports in years, to be honest.

                            I used to play baseball back in high school during the 1990's. I was terrible at it.

                            I don't have any talent for football and basketball either.

                            And my tennis and bowling skills are nothing special at best.

                            lol

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                            • KlausK Offline
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                              Klaus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #65

                              That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                              I bought a power meter today.

                              Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                                I bought a power meter today.

                                Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                                mark
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #66

                                @Klaus which power meter? Link?

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                                  #67

                                  @mark : 4iiii Precision Power Meter.
                                  https://shop.4iiii.com/collections/power-meters/products/precision-factory-install

                                  There was an offer to grab one for 250 Euro. I couldn't resist anymore.

                                  It's a 105 crank. I have an Ultegra groupset, but the Ultegra one would have been 100 Euros more and the only difference is 3 grams of weight or something.

                                  Can't wait to try it. I love data.

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #68

                                    3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                                    • markM mark

                                      3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                                      Klaus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #69

                                      @mark I don't care all that much about weight or "aero". I care about primarily about fitness gains and only secondarily about speed gains paid with money 🙂

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                                        Klaus
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                                        #70

                                        First test. My FTP seems to be in the "sucks" to "looser" range. I'll have to test more thoroughly. And then on to structured training rides.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #71

                                          Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                          I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

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                                          Please love yourself.

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