Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:05 last edited by
Skip Bayless is being destroyed on the twit machine for basically stating that it’s a big effin deal for the NFL to postpone a game and not an easy process.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:06 last edited by Mik 1 Mar 2023, 16:19
That's just the truth.
But social media is not a place for considered or defensible positions.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 Mar 2023, 16:09
There have been plenty of motor races where people die at the side of the track or are airlifted to hospital and the race continues afterwards. typically after being delayed.
In fact, I can't remember seeing a race being cancelled due to injury.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
Is it too early to discuss repercussions to the game in general and this season in particular?
I don't think it is. Suspending the game last night was the right thing to do, but a decision still has to be made how to move forward.
There's no real time to rejigger the schedule. Given that, it is difficult to see what a fair option would be. It would not surprise me if they simply declared the Bengals the winner since they were ahead at the time. They could also declare a tie and adjust somehow in home field advantage or seeding.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:22 last edited by@Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
Is it too early to discuss repercussions to the game in general and this season in particular?
I don't think it is. Suspending the game last night was the right thing to do, but a decision still has to be made how to move forward.
There's no real time to rejigger the schedule. Given that, it is difficult to see what a fair option would be. It would not surprise me if they simply declared the Bengals the winner since they were ahead at the time. They could also declare a tie and adjust somehow in home field advantage or seeding.
A tie or a forfeiture clinches the division for the Bengals. It also essentially clinches the #1 seed and bye week for the Chiefs. I tend to think the Bengals and Bills would feel the need to over exert themselves on Sunday just to decide seeding between 2 & 3, and both teams likely rest their starters…That’s essentially putting the Patriots in the last Wildcard, eliminating both Miami and Pittsburgh.
If they play the game on Thursday, that means they will need to postpone their Sunday games to Tuesday at the earliest, and result in giving both teams an extremely short week for the Wildcard weekend, which would be patently unfair to the Bengals, Bills, Patriots, and Ravens.
The fairest scenario in my opinion is a bye week. Either have only the Bengals and Bills play on Sunday and week 18 moves back a week or Go with the Thursday-Tuesday scenario then wait a week before starting the playoffs. But the logistics of that are overwhelming as are the dollars involved.
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Is it too early to discuss repercussions to the game in general and this season in particular?
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:25 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
Is it too early to discuss repercussions to the game in general and this season in particular?
No, not too early. Heck last night I asked my buddies what they thought the fantasy football apps would do. For example, I'm in the championship game for my fantasy league and Allen (Bills QB) is my QB... so if he ends up getting 2 points instead of 30+, then I'm pwn3d. Don't get me wrong, I fully agree that a man's life is more important than any of this, but the questions of "what happens next" will be asked, whether last night, today, or in a week.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:27 last edited by
The NFL's decision here will also be setting a precedent. Either the Bengals win because they had the lead at the time a game was basically ended, or I could see them awarding a tie to each team. Hard to see them shifting the entire NFL schedule around to fit in this game. The logistics are incredibly complex.
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@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:34 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
Yes, I understand.
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
They kept repeating, all that matters now is the health of the injured player. At that point they couldn't even mention other teams playing football. They were being so careful.
Lucky for me I was posting in TNCR, not live on ESPN. Now I can resume my life without much damage.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
Yes, I understand.
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
They kept repeating, all that matters now is the health of the injured player. At that point they couldn't even mention other teams playing football. They were being so careful.
Lucky for me I was posting in TNCR, not live on ESPN. Now I can resume my life without much damage.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:39 last edited by@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
I saw that. It's funny (and sad) how careful people have to be on TV these days.
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The NFL's decision here will also be setting a precedent. Either the Bengals win because they had the lead at the time a game was basically ended, or I could see them awarding a tie to each team. Hard to see them shifting the entire NFL schedule around to fit in this game. The logistics are incredibly complex.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:42 last edited by@89th said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
The NFL's decision here will also be setting a precedent. Either the Bengals win because they had the lead at the time a game was basically ended, or I could see them awarding a tie to each team. Hard to see them shifting the entire NFL schedule around to fit in this game. The logistics are incredibly
complexinsane.FIFY
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@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
Yes, I understand.
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
They kept repeating, all that matters now is the health of the injured player. At that point they couldn't even mention other teams playing football. They were being so careful.
Lucky for me I was posting in TNCR, not live on ESPN. Now I can resume my life without much damage.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 16:43 last edited by Mik 1 Mar 2023, 16:45@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
Yes, I understand.
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
They kept repeating, all that matters now is the health of the injured player. At that point they couldn't even mention other teams playing football. They were being so careful.
Lucky for me I was posting in TNCR, not live on ESPN. Now I can resume my life without much damage.
Football still matters. It only ceased to matter for that particular game that night until Hamlin was in the care of UC Med Center, but I can see that the teams should not be expected to resume play. What can be done is being done medically, and it's now a waiting game and deciding how to move forward.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 17:09 last edited by
From a physician on CBS:
"We are going to know a lot over the next 12 to 24 hours as they start to turn down the machine that's breathing for him, the ventilator, to see if he can breathe on his own, and our hopes and prayers are that he can," Agus said.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 17:15 last edited by
Here's a brand NEW controversy! Fans are accusing the league of lying.
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@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
@Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
At this point I assume they are working through playoff scenarios with or without a result in this game.
And how to deal with ticket holders
And the bookies are scratching their heads.
There won't be any more football tonight
On Twitter they would slam you for that post.
Yes, I understand.
The 3 ESPN people just after the event were trying so hard to make sure they said exactly the right thing. If they even mentioned anything that was related to playing football they would have been slaughtered.
They kept repeating, all that matters now is the health of the injured player. At that point they couldn't even mention other teams playing football. They were being so careful.
Lucky for me I was posting in TNCR, not live on ESPN. Now I can resume my life without much damage.
Football still matters. It only ceased to matter for that particular game that night until Hamlin was in the care of UC Med Center, but I can see that the teams should not be expected to resume play. What can be done is being done medically, and it's now a waiting game and deciding how to move forward.
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 17:38 last edited by@Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
but I can see that the teams should not be expected to resume play.
Not to mention the stress on the players, how difficult it would be to expect them to play damn football.
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@Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
but I can see that the teams should not be expected to resume play.
Not to mention the stress on the players, how difficult it would be to expect them to play damn football.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 18:05 last edited by
As @Doctor-Phibes noted, deaths have occurred at F1 races and the race continued. Many NASCAR drivers have been rushed to the hospital in critical condition and the races continued. There have been dozens of heart attacks at professional soccer/football matches over the last few decades and the games have continued. On that very field a few years ago, Ryan Shazier was paralyzed a few years back. The game continued. Fans have fallen from the stands to their death and vendors have keeled over dead. The games weren’t even paused.
So why was last night different? I’m not saying it was right or wrong, just noting the attitude shift…
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As @Doctor-Phibes noted, deaths have occurred at F1 races and the race continued. Many NASCAR drivers have been rushed to the hospital in critical condition and the races continued. There have been dozens of heart attacks at professional soccer/football matches over the last few decades and the games have continued. On that very field a few years ago, Ryan Shazier was paralyzed a few years back. The game continued. Fans have fallen from the stands to their death and vendors have keeled over dead. The games weren’t even paused.
So why was last night different? I’m not saying it was right or wrong, just noting the attitude shift…
wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 18:09 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:
As @Doctor-Phibes noted, deaths have occurred at F1 races and the race continued. Many NASCAR drivers have been rushed to the hospital in critical condition and the races continued. There have been dozens of heart attacks at professional soccer/football matches over the last few decades and the games have continued. On that very field a few years ago, Ryan Shazier was paralyzed a few years back. The game continued. Fans have fallen from the stands to their death and vendors have keeled over dead. The games weren’t even paused.
So why was last night different? I’m not saying it was right or wrong, just noting the attitude shift…
Prime time game, focus, social media, cancel culture, facile righteous outrage, there's your stew of causation IMO.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 18:13 last edited by Mik 1 Mar 2023, 18:13
Why was last night different? Because he essentially died on the field. His teammates saw them doing CPR and administering the defib. Shazier was conscious and clearly alive. There's a difference in emotional impact, and football is an emotional game.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 18:15 last edited by
Statement from Mike Brown.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2023, 18:47 last edited by
Bengals lit their stadium up in blue and white.
Class act
