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What will the Speaker vote look like?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:48 last edited by
    #75

    Seen on Twitter:

    “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:02 last edited by
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      Gaetz voted for Trump.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        George K
        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:06 last edited by
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        "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:16 last edited by
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          "Put a bunch of ER docs in congress. I can’t think of a group better able to wheedle, beg, convince, threaten, manipulate, and occasionally gaslight reluctant colleagues into doing their jobs. Every session will be short because we got bored. Everybody wins."

          You know, that's not wrong.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            5 Jan 2023, 18:06

            "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:31 last edited by
            #79

            @George-K lol Schoolhouse Rock

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • J jon-nyc
              5 Jan 2023, 17:48

              Seen on Twitter:

              “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

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              jodi
              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

              Seen on Twitter:

              “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

              😄😄😄

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                George K
                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:11 last edited by
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                8th loss.

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  5 Jan 2023, 18:02

                  Gaetz voted for Trump.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                  Gaetz voted for Trump.

                  At first I didn't know what you meant.

                  Then I realized he literally voted for Trump for Speaker.

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                    89th
                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
                    #83

                    There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                    Summary:

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                      89th
                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:16 last edited by
                      #84

                      I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

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                        5 Jan 2023, 20:14

                        There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                        Summary:

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                        @89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                        There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                        Summary:

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                        McCarthy's vote counts seem to be monotonically decreasing.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                          What an embarrassment.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            5 Jan 2023, 20:16

                            I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:09 last edited by
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                            @89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                            I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

                            Rumour has it that Boebert and Greene don't exactly get on

                            I was only joking

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 23:57 last edited by
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                              Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

                              https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

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                                89th
                                wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 00:33 last edited by
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                                McCarthy is getting fewer votes each time, basically. Time to call it a loss and let another conservative take it, hopefully without giving up too much to the extreme right.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:00 last edited by
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                                  Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

                                  Believe it or not.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    6 Jan 2023, 01:00

                                    Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

                                    Believe it or not.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:31 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                                    the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

                                    I've heard that rumor as well. However, there are some who think that the Speaker of the House must be a member of the House of Representatives. I'm not sure if that's a constitutional requirement, however.

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                                    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-speaker-has-to-come-from-the-house/

                                    Matthew Franck addressed this question in NRO the last time McCarthy was having trouble getting to the Speakership, in 2015, arguing that the Constitution implies that a Speaker has to be a member of the House.

                                    Among his points: Accepting a non-member as Speaker would open the door to letting a Cabinet member be Speaker, contrary to the aim of the Constitution’s incompatibility clause. I’d add that you would also then have the possibility of a Speaker who, unlike executive officers, judges, and the actual members of Congress, had not taken an oath to the Constitution.

                                    Franck ended one of his posts on the subjects this way:

                                    "The customary understanding that the speaker must be a member comports with commonsense, natural use of language in context. If you sponsored a boys’ football team and said to them “choose your captain,” it is hardly likely that they would go outside their ranks to make their choice. They would be understanding you to require them to choose, from among themselves, the first among equals to stand forth and speak for the whole team. And they’d be right. It is just possible that one wiseacre would be tempted to try out “parlor-trick textualism,” as I called it, an overworked literalism that defeats the purpose of what was required of those trusted with a decision. “How about my little sister?” But you would be justified in saying, “Pipe down. You know what I meant."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:40 last edited by
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 02:16 last edited by
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                                        11 losses in 3 days :

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

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                                          6 Jan 2023, 02:16

                                          11 losses in 3 days :

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 02:22 last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

                                          And what have the 20 holdouts conceded and compromised on?

                                          Bupkis.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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