What will the Speaker vote look like?
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There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html
Summary:
@89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html
Summary:
McCarthy's vote counts seem to be monotonically decreasing.
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I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.
@89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.
Rumour has it that Boebert and Greene don't exactly get on
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Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.
Believe it or not.
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Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.
Believe it or not.
@Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.
I've heard that rumor as well. However, there are some who think that the Speaker of the House must be a member of the House of Representatives. I'm not sure if that's a constitutional requirement, however.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-speaker-has-to-come-from-the-house/
Matthew Franck addressed this question in NRO the last time McCarthy was having trouble getting to the Speakership, in 2015, arguing that the Constitution implies that a Speaker has to be a member of the House.
Among his points: Accepting a non-member as Speaker would open the door to letting a Cabinet member be Speaker, contrary to the aim of the Constitution’s incompatibility clause. I’d add that you would also then have the possibility of a Speaker who, unlike executive officers, judges, and the actual members of Congress, had not taken an oath to the Constitution.
Franck ended one of his posts on the subjects this way:
"The customary understanding that the speaker must be a member comports with commonsense, natural use of language in context. If you sponsored a boys’ football team and said to them “choose your captain,” it is hardly likely that they would go outside their ranks to make their choice. They would be understanding you to require them to choose, from among themselves, the first among equals to stand forth and speak for the whole team. And they’d be right. It is just possible that one wiseacre would be tempted to try out “parlor-trick textualism,” as I called it, an overworked literalism that defeats the purpose of what was required of those trusted with a decision. “How about my little sister?” But you would be justified in saying, “Pipe down. You know what I meant."
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11 losses in 3 days :
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@Axtremus said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
And what have the 20 holdouts conceded and compromised on?
Bupkis.
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Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...
That is probably true. Heck, I didn't care until about yesterday when I started to google what this was all about.
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Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html
@Axtremus said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html
I am guess that the moderate Republican and moderate Democrat have more in common with each other than the moderate Republican and extreme Republican.
No reason it would not work, but like @jon said, if they agreed, then probably a primary by an extreme member
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