What will the Speaker vote look like?

[jon-nyc]

@89th They’d need something in return which would make a lot of Republicans hesitate to go along lest they get primaried.

[jon-nyc]

He’s headed for 7th defeat, he’s already lost more than 5.

[jon-nyc]

Seen on Twitter:

“If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

[jon-nyc]

Gaetz voted for Trump.

[George K]

"Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

[George K]

"Put a bunch of ER docs in congress. I can’t think of a group better able to wheedle, beg, convince, threaten, manipulate, and occasionally gaslight reluctant colleagues into doing their jobs. Every session will be short because we got bored. Everybody wins."

You know, that's not wrong.

[jon-nyc]

@George-K lol Schoolhouse Rock

[jodi]

@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

Seen on Twitter:

“If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

[George K]

8th loss.

[89th]

@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

Gaetz voted for Trump.

At first I didn't know what you meant.

Then I realized he literally voted for Trump for Speaker.

[89th]

There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

Summary:

[89th]

I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

[Axtremus]

@89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

Summary:

McCarthy's vote counts seem to be monotonically decreasing.

[Horace]

What an embarrassment.

[Doctor Phibes]

@89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

Rumour has it that Boebert and Greene don't exactly get on

[Axtremus]

Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

[89th]

McCarthy is getting fewer votes each time, basically. Time to call it a loss and let another conservative take it, hopefully without giving up too much to the extreme right.

[Jolly]

Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

Believe it or not.

[George K]

@Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

I've heard that rumor as well. However, there are some who think that the Speaker of the House must be a member of the House of Representatives. I'm not sure if that's a constitutional requirement, however.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-speaker-has-to-come-from-the-house/

Matthew Franck addressed this question in NRO the last time McCarthy was having trouble getting to the Speakership, in 2015, arguing that the Constitution implies that a Speaker has to be a member of the House.

Among his points: Accepting a non-member as Speaker would open the door to letting a Cabinet member be Speaker, contrary to the aim of the Constitution’s incompatibility clause. I’d add that you would also then have the possibility of a Speaker who, unlike executive officers, judges, and the actual members of Congress, had not taken an oath to the Constitution.

Franck ended one of his posts on the subjects this way:

"The customary understanding that the speaker must be a member comports with commonsense, natural use of language in context. If you sponsored a boys’ football team and said to them “choose your captain,” it is hardly likely that they would go outside their ranks to make their choice. They would be understanding you to require them to choose, from among themselves, the first among equals to stand forth and speak for the whole team. And they’d be right. It is just possible that one wiseacre would be tempted to try out “parlor-trick textualism,” as I called it, an overworked literalism that defeats the purpose of what was required of those trusted with a decision. “How about my little sister?” But you would be justified in saying, “Pipe down. You know what I meant."

[George K]