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What will the Speaker vote look like?

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    George K
    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 16:55 last edited by
      #71

      From Jay Nordlinger:

      Look, he could join the Russian army to help subdue Ukraine -- it would still not win the affection of MAGA. Can't politicians ever say, "It's not worth it"?

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        89th
        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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        Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?

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        • 8 89th
          5 Jan 2023, 17:31

          Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:37 last edited by
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          @89th They’d need something in return which would make a lot of Republicans hesitate to go along lest they get primaried.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:44 last edited by
            #74

            He’s headed for 7th defeat, he’s already lost more than 5.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:48 last edited by
              #75

              Seen on Twitter:

              “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:02 last edited by
                #76

                Gaetz voted for Trump.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:06 last edited by
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                  "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:16 last edited by
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                    "Put a bunch of ER docs in congress. I can’t think of a group better able to wheedle, beg, convince, threaten, manipulate, and occasionally gaslight reluctant colleagues into doing their jobs. Every session will be short because we got bored. Everybody wins."

                    You know, that's not wrong.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      5 Jan 2023, 18:06

                      "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:31 last edited by
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                      @George-K lol Schoolhouse Rock

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        5 Jan 2023, 17:48

                        Seen on Twitter:

                        “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

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                        jodi
                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                        Seen on Twitter:

                        “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

                        😄😄😄

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                          George K
                          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:11 last edited by
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                          8th loss.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            5 Jan 2023, 18:02

                            Gaetz voted for Trump.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
                            #82

                            @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                            Gaetz voted for Trump.

                            At first I didn't know what you meant.

                            Then I realized he literally voted for Trump for Speaker.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
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                              There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                              https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                              Summary:

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                                89th
                                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:16 last edited by
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                                I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

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                                  5 Jan 2023, 20:14

                                  There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                                  Summary:

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                                  There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html

                                  Summary:

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                                  McCarthy's vote counts seem to be monotonically decreasing.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                                    What an embarrassment.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • 8 89th
                                      5 Jan 2023, 20:16

                                      I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 21:09 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                                      I am surprised MTG is voting with McCarthy, whereas her other bozos like Boebert and Gaetz aren't.

                                      Rumour has it that Boebert and Greene don't exactly get on

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 23:57 last edited by
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                                        Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 00:33 last edited by
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                                          McCarthy is getting fewer votes each time, basically. Time to call it a loss and let another conservative take it, hopefully without giving up too much to the extreme right.

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