What will the Speaker vote look like?
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@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
This seems comically absurd.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:57 last edited by
WSJ Editorial Board:
The problem any GOP leader faces today is that too many Republicans don’t really want to hold and keep political power. They’re much more comfortable in opposition in the minority, which is easier because no hard decisions or compromises are necessary. You can rage against “the swamp” without having to do anything to change it. This is the fundamental and sorry truth behind the Speaker spectacle and the performative GOP politics of recent years.
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This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?
Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.
wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:58 last edited by@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?
Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.
It really makes the fringe group look like children.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:59 last edited by
He could probably get more reasonable concessions from Spanberger and her ilk.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:59 last edited by
To be fair, some of the demands are not stupid, like a return to more single issue bills, a drastic reduction in earmarks and curtailing some campaign funding in "safe" GOP districts, so as to spend more in competitive and marginal districts.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 16:55 last edited by
From Jay Nordlinger:
Look, he could join the Russian army to help subdue Ukraine -- it would still not win the affection of MAGA. Can't politicians ever say, "It's not worth it"?
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:31 last edited by
Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?
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Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:44 last edited by
He’s headed for 7th defeat, he’s already lost more than 5.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:48 last edited by
Seen on Twitter:
“If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:02 last edited by
Gaetz voted for Trump.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:06 last edited by
"Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:16 last edited by
"Put a bunch of ER docs in congress. I can’t think of a group better able to wheedle, beg, convince, threaten, manipulate, and occasionally gaslight reluctant colleagues into doing their jobs. Every session will be short because we got bored. Everybody wins."
You know, that's not wrong.
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"Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "
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Seen on Twitter:
“If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”
wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 19:46 last edited by@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
Seen on Twitter:
“If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:11 last edited by
8th loss.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:
Gaetz voted for Trump.
At first I didn't know what you meant.
Then I realized he literally voted for Trump for Speaker.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 20:14 last edited by
There is a full person-by-person tracker here btw:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/04/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html
Summary:
