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What will the Speaker vote look like?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:24 last edited by
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    This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?

    Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      5 Jan 2023, 14:24

      This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?

      Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.

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      George K
      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:38 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

      This seems comically absurd.

      I was going to post about the caving concessions. But, you're right. It's just stupid.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:54 last edited by
        #63

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          5 Jan 2023, 14:38

          @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

          This seems comically absurd.

          I was going to post about the caving concessions. But, you're right. It's just stupid.

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          George K
          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:55 last edited by
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          @George-K BS on that one.

          #3 is impossible.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:57 last edited by
            #65

            WSJ Editorial Board:

            The problem any GOP leader faces today is that too many Republicans don’t really want to hold and keep political power. They’re much more comfortable in opposition in the minority, which is easier because no hard decisions or compromises are necessary. You can rage against “the swamp” without having to do anything to change it. This is the fundamental and sorry truth behind the Speaker spectacle and the performative GOP politics of recent years.

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              5 Jan 2023, 14:55

              @George-K BS on that one.

              #3 is impossible.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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              @George-K lol

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                5 Jan 2023, 14:24

                This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?

                Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:58 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                This seems comically absurd. How could he possibly accept this? Imagine the constant opportunity for any single representative to grandstand and blow up the house?

                Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.

                It really makes the fringe group look like children.

                The Brad

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:59 last edited by
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                  He could probably get more reasonable concessions from Spanberger and her ilk.

                  The Brad

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 14:59 last edited by
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                    To be fair, some of the demands are not stupid, like a return to more single issue bills, a drastic reduction in earmarks and curtailing some campaign funding in "safe" GOP districts, so as to spend more in competitive and marginal districts.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 16:55 last edited by
                        #71

                        From Jay Nordlinger:

                        Look, he could join the Russian army to help subdue Ukraine -- it would still not win the affection of MAGA. Can't politicians ever say, "It's not worth it"?

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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                          Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?

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                            5 Jan 2023, 17:31

                            Ok so I am a noob. But, essentially is it that the "Gaetz" side of the GOP is holding hostage the speaker position because McCarthy isn't as extreme as they are? If so, wouldn't it make sense for a few democrats to join the normal GOP and get McCarthy in so a more extreme speaker isn't elected?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:37 last edited by
                            #73

                            @89th They’d need something in return which would make a lot of Republicans hesitate to go along lest they get primaried.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:44 last edited by
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                              He’s headed for 7th defeat, he’s already lost more than 5.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:48 last edited by
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                                Seen on Twitter:

                                “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:02 last edited by
                                  #76

                                  Gaetz voted for Trump.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:06 last edited by
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                                    "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:16 last edited by
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                                      "Put a bunch of ER docs in congress. I can’t think of a group better able to wheedle, beg, convince, threaten, manipulate, and occasionally gaslight reluctant colleagues into doing their jobs. Every session will be short because we got bored. Everybody wins."

                                      You know, that's not wrong.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        5 Jan 2023, 18:06

                                        "Unless I am mistaken about the order of things, the impasse over selecting the next Speaker of the House will end very soon for a simple reason: since no members can be officially sworn in until there is a Speaker, it means none of them can draw a paycheck. "

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:31 last edited by
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                                        @George-K lol Schoolhouse Rock

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          5 Jan 2023, 17:48

                                          Seen on Twitter:

                                          “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

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                                          jodi
                                          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                                          Seen on Twitter:

                                          “If I were Kevin McCarthy’s first born, I’d be getting kind of nervous right now.”

                                          😄😄😄

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