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  • CopperC Offline
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    #116

    It is young

    It will grow up

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #117

      A young AI that isn’t a little liberal has no heart. A mature AI that isn’t conservative has no brain…

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

        KlausK Offline
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        #118

        @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

        The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

        The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

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        • KlausK Offline
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          #119

          Imagine a future in which the majority of text on the internet was produced by ChatGPT et al - which is then fed into ChatGPT et al as training data.

          What would this process converge to?

          I'd suggest that some weird variant of the 2nd thermodynamic law implies that the chat bots will become more stupid with each iteration. They cannot produce text that contains new information or patterns that they don't already know. It's an endless loop of confirmation bias at work.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

            The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

            The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #120

            @Klaus said in ChatGPT:

            @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

            The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

            The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

            Not necessarily. There are plenty of other ways to introduce bias in an AI model.

            Please love yourself.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #121

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/george-r-r-martin-joins-authors-suing-openai-over-copyright-infringement/

              ... popular authors including John Grisham, Jonathan Franzen, George R.R. Martin, Jodi Picoult, and George Saunders joined the Authors Guild in suing OpenAI, alleging that training the company's large language models (LLMs) used to power AI tools like ChatGPT on pirated versions of their books violates copyright laws and is "systematic theft on a mass scale."

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                #122

                https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/02/tom-hanks-dental-ad-ai-version-fake

                Tom Hanks says AI version of him used in dental plan ad without his consent

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                  #123

                  Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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                    #124

                    @89th said in ChatGPT:

                    Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                    One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      #125

                      Or use NFTs

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Or use NFTs

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                        #126

                        @89th said in ChatGPT:

                        Or use NFTs

                        😄

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @89th said in ChatGPT:

                          Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                          One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                          That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                          A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                          I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                            That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                            A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                            I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            @taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:

                            @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                            That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                            A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                            I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

                            Nathan Tardiff does the same thing with an $8 bottle. Has been for years. Each one has unique markers that don't break down over time.

                            He makes a red that literally binds to the celluloid cells of the paper. It's pretty damn impossible to remove the ink.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              #129

                              She took our jobs!

                              https://fortune.com/europe/2023/11/23/spanish-influencer-agency-earned-11000-ai-model-posers/

                              Spanish modeling/influencer agency created AI generated model to do the jobs of models and social media influencers, because they find real life influencers are too costly and too unreliable to work with.

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                                #130

                                Go to the 5:15 mark for the ChatGPT bit:

                                Link to video

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                                  #131

                                  https://gizmodo.com/google-search-ai-overview-giant-hallucination-1851499031

                                  Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination

                                  Article with many examples showing failures in AI generate “summaries” provided by Google in response to search queries.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    #132

                                    Link to video

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #133

                                      No idea if ChatGPT or some other generative AI is involved.

                                      Link to video

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #134

                                        Good educational introduction to Large Language Model (LLM):

                                        Link to video

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                                          Those who must not be named:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/12/certain-names-make-chatgpt-grind-to-a-halt-and-we-know-why/

                                          The chat-breaking behavior occurs consistently when users mention these names in any context, and it results from a hard-coded filter that puts the brakes on the AI model's output before returning it to the user.
                                          ...
                                          Here's a list of ChatGPT-breaking names found so far through a communal effort taking place on social media and Reddit. ...

                                          • Brian Hood
                                          • Johnathan Turley
                                          • Johnathan Zittrain
                                          • David Faber
                                          • Guido Scorza
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