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@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
To be honest, I don't understand AI well enough, if at all, to be able to judge how terrifying this is, but plenty of people seem to be plenty worried. I'm not completely convinced there isn't a degree of unnecessary panic at the moment.
Did you read the WaPo article? There are people out of work right now because of it.
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 18:26 last edited by Doctor Phibes 6 May 2023, 18:26@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
To be honest, I don't understand AI well enough, if at all, to be able to judge how terrifying this is, but plenty of people seem to be plenty worried. I'm not completely convinced there isn't a degree of unnecessary panic at the moment.
Did you read the WaPo article?
Yeah, I've seen a few like this. And I feel that journalists may be writing like this partly because they're in the line of fire. I still don't really understand how it's all going to work.
Remember how Y2K was going to end western civilization?
And no, I'm not saying this is a lot of fuss over nothing, I just don't feel like I have a good handle on what's actually going to happen, and I'm not sure I believe anybody who says they do.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
To be honest, I don't understand AI well enough, if at all, to be able to judge how terrifying this is, but plenty of people seem to be plenty worried. I'm not completely convinced there isn't a degree of unnecessary panic at the moment.
Did you read the WaPo article?
Yeah, I've seen a few like this. And I feel that journalists may be writing like this partly because they're in the line of fire. I still don't really understand how it's all going to work.
Remember how Y2K was going to end western civilization?
And no, I'm not saying this is a lot of fuss over nothing, I just don't feel like I have a good handle on what's actually going to happen, and I'm not sure I believe anybody who says they do.
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 18:44 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
I still don't really understand how it's all going to work.
Here, let me break it down for you:
The offer on the table right now—as in, you can choose this today—is, "good to great work that can't scale, takes time, costs money, and involves collaborating with people who sometimes tell you no" versus "mediocre on a good day, but you get it right now, for free, you can get more of it, and no one can tell you no."
Some companies are taking option B and laying off their writers in droves. Others are taking a middle road: training their writers on ChatGPT so they can get more done but have no loss in quality. Still others are saying no way, we're not touching any of that technology.
The uncertainty lies in how many companies are going to choose which of these options. That'll determine how bad it is from an overall writer joblessness standpoint.
So, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty about that. But the reality is, some people are losing their jobs. Right now. With others on the way. It's bad, but no one knows how bad it'll get.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
I still don't really understand how it's all going to work.
Here, let me break it down for you:
The offer on the table right now—as in, you can choose this today—is, "good to great work that can't scale, takes time, costs money, and involves collaborating with people who sometimes tell you no" versus "mediocre on a good day, but you get it right now, for free, you can get more of it, and no one can tell you no."
Some companies are taking option B and laying off their writers in droves. Others are taking a middle road: training their writers on ChatGPT so they can get more done but have no loss in quality. Still others are saying no way, we're not touching any of that technology.
The uncertainty lies in how many companies are going to choose which of these options. That'll determine how bad it is from an overall writer joblessness standpoint.
So, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty about that. But the reality is, some people are losing their jobs. Right now. With others on the way. It's bad, but no one knows how bad it'll get.
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 19:18 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
So, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty about that. But the reality is, some people are losing their jobs. Right now. With others on the way. It's bad, but no one knows how bad it'll get.
Yes, I understand that people are losing their jobs, and I understand that this really isn't good. But I still don't understand how it's all going to work out in the medium to long-term. Technology frequently surprises people, even the experts. Bill Gates' book 'The Road Ahead' famously almost completely overlooked the importance of the internet, which was arguably the single most important innovation since the printing press - certainly in the top 5.
I appreciate that these are really scary times, but I'm still left wondering. You're focusing on writers, for obvious reasons, but there are a ton of other jobs this could affect in ways we probably haven't even realised, sometimes for the bad, but most likely also for the good.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
So, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty about that. But the reality is, some people are losing their jobs. Right now. With others on the way. It's bad, but no one knows how bad it'll get.
Yes, I understand that people are losing their jobs, and I understand that this really isn't good. But I still don't understand how it's all going to work out in the medium to long-term. Technology frequently surprises people, even the experts. Bill Gates' book 'The Road Ahead' famously almost completely overlooked the importance of the internet, which was arguably the single most important innovation since the printing press - certainly in the top 5.
I appreciate that these are really scary times, but I'm still left wondering. You're focusing on writers, for obvious reasons, but there are a ton of other jobs this could affect in ways we probably haven't even realised, sometimes for the bad, but most likely also for the good.
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 19:30 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in ChatGPT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
So, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty about that. But the reality is, some people are losing their jobs. Right now. With others on the way. It's bad, but no one knows how bad it'll get.
Yes, I understand that people are losing their jobs, and I understand that this really isn't good. But I still don't understand how it's all going to work out in the medium to long-term. Technology frequently surprises people, even the experts. Bill Gates' book 'The Road Ahead' famously almost completely overlooked the importance of the internet, which was arguably the single most important innovation since the printing press - certainly in the top 5.
I appreciate that these are really scary times, but I'm still left wondering. You're focusing on writers, for obvious reasons, but there are a ton of other jobs this could affect in ways we probably haven't even realised, sometimes for the bad, but most likely also for the good.
Yeah, I agree with all that. Even the focus on writers—I'm only doing so now because that's what we happen to be talking about, but it affects a lot of industries. And no one knows where we go next. This is nothing like the automobile or the internet.
If I was betting, I'd say we'll probably end up in some kind of universal lateral move. But the devil's in the details and its individual consequences.
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Losing one's job has similar emotional impact to losing one's marriage.
Anyway it's not clear that when AI reaches superhuman intelligence, there'll be much left for humans to do. This is not an evolution of technology that leaves people without jobs, it's an evolution in the ability of robots to replace humans in nearly every definable, marketable skill. Nothing rushes in to fill that gap, in what people are needed for on the job market.
Well, that's phase 2. And we have some time yet on that I think. Not a whole lot, but probably some.
I'm not worried about phase 2 because it's going to upend so much that there's literally nothing to do to prepare for it. No one knows what that world will look like or to what extent humans will even participate in it.
I'm still working on phase 1, which is a situation in which I might have to make a radical career change because there's still a concept and expectation of having a "career."
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 21:45 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
No one knows what that world will look like or to what extent humans will even participate in it.
Individual communities can go back to the very basic and live like the Amish, that should still remain an option.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
No one knows what that world will look like or to what extent humans will even participate in it.
Individual communities can go back to the very basic and live like the Amish, that should still remain an option.
wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 23:41 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in ChatGPT:
No one knows what that world will look like or to what extent humans will even participate in it.
Individual communities can go back to the very basic and live like the Amish, that should still remain an option.
Point. Missed.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 04:01 last edited by
Hey Ax, you and me, Bud!
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wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 14:05 last edited by
Lawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research
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Lawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research
wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 00:32 last edited byLawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research
If the lawyer was stupid enough to use Chat GPT and do no follow up, then he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2023, 13:08 last edited by
https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/06/13/chatgpt-and-google-bard-adoption-remains-surprisingly-low
Low adoption of AI chat bots, according to a JP Morgan study:
... only 19 per cent of the people who took part in the study said that they have used ChatGPT before, while only 9 per cent of the respondents have used the Google Bard chatbot.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2023, 13:28 last edited by
Yeah that's not likely to change or anything.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2023, 13:33 last edited by
I promise to create a very hostile environment for AI Development in 2024…
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Federal judge: No AI in my courtroom unless a human verifies its accuracy
Judge wary of AI "hallucinations," says it isn't acceptable for legal briefing.For now, I think it’s a good rule.
wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 16:37 last edited byFollow-up:
A federal judge tossed a lawsuit and issued a $5,000 fine to the plaintiff's lawyers after they used ChatGPT to research court filings that cited six fake cases invented by the artificial intelligence tool made by OpenAI. …
… More embarrassingly for the lawyers, they are required to send letters to six real judges who were "falsely identified as the author of the fake" opinions cited in their legal filings. …$5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.
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Follow-up:
A federal judge tossed a lawsuit and issued a $5,000 fine to the plaintiff's lawyers after they used ChatGPT to research court filings that cited six fake cases invented by the artificial intelligence tool made by OpenAI. …
… More embarrassingly for the lawyers, they are required to send letters to six real judges who were "falsely identified as the author of the fake" opinions cited in their legal filings. …$5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.
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wrote on 19 Jul 2023, 01:45 last edited by
@taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:
https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned
Silly human race.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 23:42 last edited by
ChatGPT leans liberal, new research shows
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/16/chatgpt-ai-political-bias-research/
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wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 00:54 last edited by
The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 01:35 last edited by
It is young
It will grow up
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wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 02:29 last edited by
A young AI that isn’t a little liberal has no heart. A mature AI that isn’t conservative has no brain…
