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Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week

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    Horace
    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 22:33 last edited by
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    Sick people need to move to where the hospital beds are.

    Education is extremely important.

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      George K
      wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 00:13 last edited by
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      I have no attribution other than a blog which cites "someone who communicated."

      "So, your sort of sideways point that nobody is willing to finger the protests for the spike in cases is probably correct. I did some work on this about a week ago, but am not willing to write about it myself, being a corporate tool. Math: Median time from exposure to symptoms (if you get them) is 5-6 days. Median time from symptoms to hospitalization is 7 days. Point is, hospitalizations should start to increase ~12 days from a super spreader event. Well, that is exactly when cases started to spike here in Austin. I graphed the “Texas reopening” orders against the Austin MSA hospitalization graph. No effect, until exactly 12 days after the first big demonstration. Here you go."

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      I also have no opinion as to the accuracy of the data, so take it for what it's worth.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        26 Jun 2020, 00:13

        I have no attribution other than a blog which cites "someone who communicated."

        "So, your sort of sideways point that nobody is willing to finger the protests for the spike in cases is probably correct. I did some work on this about a week ago, but am not willing to write about it myself, being a corporate tool. Math: Median time from exposure to symptoms (if you get them) is 5-6 days. Median time from symptoms to hospitalization is 7 days. Point is, hospitalizations should start to increase ~12 days from a super spreader event. Well, that is exactly when cases started to spike here in Austin. I graphed the “Texas reopening” orders against the Austin MSA hospitalization graph. No effect, until exactly 12 days after the first big demonstration. Here you go."

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        I also have no opinion as to the accuracy of the data, so take it for what it's worth.

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        Loki
        wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 00:22 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

        I have no attribution other than a blog which cites "someone who communicated."

        "So, your sort of sideways point that nobody is willing to finger the protests for the spike in cases is probably correct. I did some work on this about a week ago, but am not willing to write about it myself, being a corporate tool. Math: Median time from exposure to symptoms (if you get them) is 5-6 days. Median time from symptoms to hospitalization is 7 days. Point is, hospitalizations should start to increase ~12 days from a super spreader event. Well, that is exactly when cases started to spike here in Austin. I graphed the “Texas reopening” orders against the Austin MSA hospitalization graph. No effect, until exactly 12 days after the first big demonstration. Here you go."

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        I also have no opinion as to the accuracy of the data, so take it for what it's worth.

        Only evens with Republicans are superspreader events silly. It’s as if you can’t read a newspaper and comprehend it.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 02:22 last edited by
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          I’m going to be really skeptical of claims in the general style of “it wasn’t the protests/reopening, it was the reopening/protests.”

          I doubt SARS-COV-2 cares much about black lives or US GDP.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 02:28 last edited by
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            Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • J jon-nyc
              26 Jun 2020, 02:28

              Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

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              Loki
              wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 02:33 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

              Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

              Do you subscribe to the notion that the infected are Trump supporters?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 02:51 last edited by jon-nyc
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                Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  26 Jun 2020, 02:51

                  Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 03:03 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                  Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

                  I think we both violently agree that masks are the single most important thing we can do and a President who can’t make that point is not thinking about their long term. I would hope we would also agree that the population that it skews to is not taking Trump’s lead in not wearing masks.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 21:46 last edited by
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                    Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • J jon-nyc
                      26 Jun 2020, 21:46

                      Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 22:53 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                      Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

                      It’s bad news for sure but it is not hard to create real makeshift ICU beds. It’s not like people will be turned away or care compromised.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 22:59 last edited by
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                        If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          26 Jun 2020, 22:59

                          If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 23:07 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                          If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

                          That’s not what they are doing, I vent or some other breathing assist and more intense monitor. Lots of ICU surge capacity. Of course staff and PPE is another issue.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 03:08 last edited by
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                            Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • J jon-nyc
                              27 Jun 2020, 03:08

                              Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 03:18 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                              Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                              Wow. Not that it matters but Harris County is non 69% non white.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 03:39 last edited by
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                                Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  27 Jun 2020, 03:39

                                  Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 03:54 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                                  Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                                  Why do you think Houston is having such a Covid crisis?

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 03:57 last edited by
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                                    Jon-nyc scholars have been particularly inept at getting the word out about the Halliburton employment.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      27 Jun 2020, 03:39

                                      Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 04:24 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                                      Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                                      Gasp! He worked for the Prince of Darkness, take down all his statues!

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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                                        Related?

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 27 Jun 2020, 16:14 last edited by
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                                          Absolutely!

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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