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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    I’m going to be really skeptical of claims in the general style of “it wasn’t the protests/reopening, it was the reopening/protests.”

    I doubt SARS-COV-2 cares much about black lives or US GDP.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

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        @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

        Trevor Bedford expects the protests to have a material impact but not in a single infectious period. He figures the average age of the protesters is too young. Need time for them to infect their parents/grandparents. He suggested 3 infectious periods of delay.

        Do you subscribe to the notion that the infected are Trump supporters?

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

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            @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

            Of course not, the virus is apolitical. We know it skews disproportionately black and Hispanic. And the virus loves density. On the other hand we know that older folks far more likely to be hospitalized

            I think we both violently agree that masks are the single most important thing we can do and a President who can’t make that point is not thinking about their long term. I would hope we would also agree that the population that it skews to is not taking Trump’s lead in not wearing masks.

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              Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

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                @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                Houston's Texas Medical Center, considered the largest medical complex in the world, reached 100 percent ICU occupancy Thursday, as Texas continues to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases.

                It’s bad news for sure but it is not hard to create real makeshift ICU beds. It’s not like people will be turned away or care compromised.

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                  If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

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                    @Jolly said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                    If it's a real life ICU bed, it ain't as easy as you think it is.

                    That’s not what they are doing, I vent or some other breathing assist and more intense monitor. Lots of ICU surge capacity. Of course staff and PPE is another issue.

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                      Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                        Harris County (Houston) phones are making noise tonight.

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                        Wow. Not that it matters but Harris County is non 69% non white.

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                          Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                            Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                            Why do you think Houston is having such a Covid crisis?

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                              Jon-nyc scholars have been particularly inept at getting the word out about the Halliburton employment.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                                Little known jon-nyc fact: I spent half a year in Houston working for Haliburton (as a consultant) while Cheney was CEO.

                                Gasp! He worked for the Prince of Darkness, take down all his statues!

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                                    Absolutely!

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Absolutely!

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                                      @Jolly said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                                      Absolutely!

                                      Yup. Just common sense that there would be an equation between the two. In addition, based on the earlier sicknesses, it seems like black people are getting it more frequently unfortunately. And there is probably a higher level of black people in the marches.

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                                        jon-nycJ Online
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                                        @George-K said in Houston hospitals expect to exceed ICU capacity this week:

                                        Related?

                                        Of course. SARS-COV-2 doesn’t think black lives matter.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          So why are we only seeing the surge in certain areas? DC had over 200,000 protestors. Their increases have been around .35%. Philadelphia had over 100,000 protestors and their cases are still declining. Pointing to that as the issue for Houston when the rest of Texas (including rural areas) are also seeing increases doesn't feel right to me...

                                          The Brad

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