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My next piano??

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  • George KG George K

    @Horace said in My next piano??:

    Roland FP-10

    Is that the same action as the 704?

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    @George-K said in My next piano??:

    @Horace said in My next piano??:

    Roland FP-10

    Is that the same action as the 704?

    No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @George-K said in My next piano??:

      @Horace said in My next piano??:

      Roland FP-10

      Is that the same action as the 704?

      No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

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      @Horace said in My next piano??:

      I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

      Right - if you're not offended, it'll be "good enough."

      Also, if you have a "real" piano...well, that's sort of the point. @mark has a very nice Estonia (which I've touched), so your point is well-taken.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @George-K said in My next piano??:

        @Horace said in My next piano??:

        Roland FP-10

        Is that the same action as the 704?

        No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

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        #132

        @Horace said in My next piano??:

        @George-K said in My next piano??:

        @Horace said in My next piano??:

        Roland FP-10

        Is that the same action as the 704?

        No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

        PHA4 is good enough. You still need an acoustic.

        The Brad

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          There’s an FP10 that was bought in January that they’re selling for $450 on FB Marketplace

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            Copper
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            EBay, good prices on New and Open Box

            https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fp-10&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

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              yeah Roland made a deal with Costco, they were available on the floor at $550 after discounts. The ACR is the branded one Costco bulk purchased. FP-10 hardware with slightly modified firmware, different voices I think.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Better deal
                https://www.facebook.com/share/WmVVguR1qP58WFAu/?mibextid=79PoIi

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                  I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

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                    I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                    • markM mark

                      I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                      @mark said in My next piano??:

                      I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

                      Come on down.

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                        Wish we could have sampled some Rolands, but nobody in the area had one that met our criteria.

                        Just submitted the paperwork for three of these:

                        https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-745/index.html

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Those are sweet Yamaha models.

                          I don't want to go that high end.

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                          • markM mark

                            I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

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                            @mark said in My next piano??:

                            vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

                            The 525 is on sale at Sweetwater for $1,599

                            The 525 is on sale at Sam Ash for $129 (including keyboard stickers)

                            Sam Ash has a clearance sale going on, but still, this is too low. I was looking for a violin there, crazy prices for that too.

                            I'm missing something here.

                            https://sammusiciay.shop/products/yamaha-p-525-88-key-digital-piano-package-black-beginner-package

                            EDIT...

                            That appears to be a scam, too good to be true

                            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/31571/crazy-sale-if-you-need-an-instrument/2

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