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  • 8 89th
    21 Jun 2020, 01:16

    @xenon you made me go onto YouTube and watch some of it, he is totally in his element. It’s actually very entertaining. Almost reminds me of WWE (wrestling) speeches.

    Also not a surprise that some black Trump supporters coincidentally got seats directly behind him for the TV angles.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:17 last edited by
    #14

    @89th said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    Also not a surprise that all black Trump supporters coincidentally got seats directly behind him for the TV angles.

    Made a slight change to your statement. LOL

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    • L Loki
      21 Jun 2020, 03:13

      @Axtremus said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

      Trump campaign blames protesters for disappointing turnout at Tulsa rally https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-coronavirus-reset-2020-campaign-330248

      There is always someone else to blame.

      Is that your big take away? Was that your observation? I watched the first hour and the crowd look very large and enthusiastic.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:23 last edited by
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      @Loki said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

      I watched the first hour and the crowd look very large and enthusiastic.

      Some numbers:

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/21/turnout-at-trumps-tulsa-rally-was-just-under-6200a-fraction-of-the-venues-19200-capacity/#3b9045361fed

      " ... a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people"

      Of course, that's still 6,200 more than Mr. Biden's non-rally.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:30 last edited by
        #16

        Sour grapes.

        The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

        Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:36 last edited by
          #17

          Jolly, you never disappoint. 😆

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            21 Jun 2020, 14:36

            Jolly, you never disappoint. 😆

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            Jolly
            wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:13 last edited by
            #18

            @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            Jolly, you never disappoint. 😆

            Northern Star, I am.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              21 Jun 2020, 14:30

              Sour grapes.

              The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

              Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:27 last edited by jon-nyc
              #19

              @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

              Sour grapes.

              The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

              Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

              No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

              Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

              Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                21 Jun 2020, 15:27

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                Sour grapes.

                The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:36 last edited by
                #20

                @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                Sour grapes.

                The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  21 Jun 2020, 14:30

                  Sour grapes.

                  The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                  Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 16:40 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                  Sour grapes.

                  The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                  Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                  That depends on how much they are paid.

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                  • J Jolly
                    21 Jun 2020, 15:36

                    @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                    Sour grapes.

                    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                    People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:04 last edited by
                    #22

                    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                    @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                    Sour grapes.

                    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                    People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                    This is true. And the other way too.

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      21 Jun 2020, 17:04

                      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      Sour grapes.

                      The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                      Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                      No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                      Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                      Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                      People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                      This is true. And the other way too.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:08 last edited by
                      #23

                      @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      Sour grapes.

                      The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                      Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                      No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                      Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                      Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                      People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                      This is true. And the other way too.

                      No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        21 Jun 2020, 17:08

                        @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        Sour grapes.

                        The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                        Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                        No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                        Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                        Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                        People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                        This is true. And the other way too.

                        No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:12 last edited by
                        #24

                        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                        Sour grapes.

                        The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                        Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                        No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                        Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                        Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                        People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                        This is true. And the other way too.

                        No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                        Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

                        @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

                        At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:16 last edited by Mik
                          #25

                          Hell, I went to pick up my Peach Truck order this morning, looked at the situation and split. Chaos, no real distancing, few masks, hundreds or thousands of people. This is in one of the zip codes that are on the way up, so I suspect many infections will result.

                          Bummed out about the peaches (they really are fantastic) but I don't like them THAT much. I sent them and email and they promptly refunded my money, which was actually quite nice of them. I expected they might not.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • T taiwan_girl
                            21 Jun 2020, 17:12

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            Sour grapes.

                            The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                            Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                            No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                            Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                            Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                            People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                            This is true. And the other way too.

                            No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                            Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

                            @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

                            At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:19 last edited by
                            #26

                            @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            Sour grapes.

                            The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                            Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                            No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                            Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                            Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                            People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                            This is true. And the other way too.

                            No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                            Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

                            @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

                            At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

                            I will vote, but truthfully I have not decided how yet. Sadly the libertarians aren't running anybody good this year. Trump's lack of leadership lately is concerning to me. He seems to be floundering.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:10 last edited by
                              #27

                              https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/after-tulsa-parscale-and-kushner-on-trumps-hit-list

                              “After Tulsa Catastrophe, Parscale—And Kushner—Is at the Top of Trump’s Hit List”

                              It is always someone else’s fault.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:18 last edited by
                                #28

                                "The sources said that Parscale, reading the tea leaves, is planning to step down. “He knows he can’t survive,” one source told me."

                                Ha! Did I call it or what??? I knew we should've had a TNCR office pool!

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:28 last edited by
                                  #29

                                  Wait wait wait - this event was a success. I read that here.

                                  And the reporting about Trump being livid came from ABC - it can only be fake.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 11:16 last edited by
                                    #30

                                    I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

                                    No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      23 Jun 2020, 11:16

                                      I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

                                      No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

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                                      wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 11:42 last edited by
                                      #31

                                      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                      No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                                      What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:

                                      • Virus
                                      • Fear of protesters
                                      • Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
                                      • Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
                                      • Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
                                      • Why bother if Biden is going to win

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 11:58 last edited by
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                                        Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                          23 Jun 2020, 11:58

                                          Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 12:23 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                          Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                                          Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

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