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  • George KG George K

    We may never know the motive...

    As of about 30 minutes ago, he's STILL in surgery. That's not a good thing.

    Not at all.

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    George K
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    @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

    We may never know the motive...

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      The paper of record.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

        We may never know the motive...

        Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 7.54.10 AM copy.jpg

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        @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

        @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

        We may never know the motive...

        Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 7.54.10 AM copy.jpg

        Like me, they are waiting for more information before rushing to judgment.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Thank God that wasn't Fox News or (dare I say it out loud?) Breitbart.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Perp's name is Hadi Matar.

            I have my doubts about his being of Irish ancestry.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

              Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

              @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

              Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

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              These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

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              • CopperC Copper

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

                @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                @Copper said in The Fatwa Lives:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

                @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

                Obviously, the IRA and Protestant terrorist groups weren't anything like Khomeini, but the conflict was both religious and ethnic in nature. People find excuses to kill people they don't like in the name of all kinds of things.

                One of Salman Rushdie's other books, Midnight's Children, painted Indira Gandhi in a very poor light. She was eventually killed by Sikh extremists after her operation at the Golden Temple led to 3000 Sikh's being killed.

                Next time there's a mass shooting in the US, let's all make sure we point out that it's an American doing it. Unless of course it's not.

                I was only joking

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                  Seems odd to me that there wasn't better security - given he was giving a public lecture in NY. IF I were an assassin, this would be about as good an opportunity as I might expect to have to get close enough to him to accomplish an attack.

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    Seems odd to me that there wasn't better security - given he was giving a public lecture in NY. IF I were an assassin, this would be about as good an opportunity as I might expect to have to get close enough to him to accomplish an attack.

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                    George K
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                    @kluurs good point.

                    But, it's been 40 years, so memories fade.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @kluurs good point.

                      But, it's been 40 years, so memories fade.

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                      @George-K

                      I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @George-K

                        I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

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                        George K
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                        @Renauda said in The Fatwa Lives:

                        @George-K

                        I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

                        Good point. I (obviously) hadn't considered that.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Off the blower.

                          Acclaimed novelist Salman Rushdie remains in critical condition but is talking and showing signs of improvement two days after he was stabbed during a lecture in upstate New York, his family said Sunday.

                          The bestselling author underwent surgery Friday after being seriously injured when a man attacked him onstage at the Chautauqua Institution in Chautauqua, N.Y.

                          Mr. Rushdie was taken off a ventilator over the weekend and is breathing on his own, his son Zafar Rushdie said in a statement.

                          “We are extremely relieved,” he said, while adding that Mr. Rushdie, 75 years old, still needs extensive medical treatment.

                          “He was able to say a few words,” said Zafar Rushdie. “Though his life-changing injuries are severe, his usual feisty and defiant sense of humor remains intact.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            LOL

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              LOL

                              FaHPj2YXgAIkpuO.jpeg

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                              @George-K

                              That’s very good.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Sam Harris’ comment:

                                Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Sam Harris’ comment:

                                  Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                  The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                  Sam Harris’ comment:

                                  Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                  The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                  Good point. I wonder what they were more afraid of. The wrath of Islam, or being considered a bigot? The latter carries a more immediate and inevitable punch, for those who need to be accepted by the left.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                    Sam Harris’ comment:

                                    Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                    The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                    Good point. I wonder what they were more afraid of. The wrath of Islam, or being considered a bigot? The latter carries a more immediate and inevitable punch, for those who need to be accepted by the left.

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                                    @Horace said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                    Sam Harris’ comment:

                                    Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                    The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                    Good point. I wonder what they were more afraid of. The wrath of Islam, or being considered a bigot? The latter carries a more immediate and inevitable punch, for those who need to be accepted by the left.

                                    1989? Cancel Culture wasn’t a thing back then.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @Horace said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                      Sam Harris’ comment:

                                      Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                      The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                      Good point. I wonder what they were more afraid of. The wrath of Islam, or being considered a bigot? The latter carries a more immediate and inevitable punch, for those who need to be accepted by the left.

                                      1989? Cancel Culture wasn’t a thing back then.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                      @Horace said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                      Sam Harris’ comment:

                                      Like many of you, I'm thinking about Salman Rushdie now.

                                      The threat he has lived under for so long–which was so horrifically realized today–was the product, not merely of the hatred and zeal of religious fanatics but of the cowardice and confusion of secularists. Everyone in arts and letters should have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Salman in 1989, thereby distributing the risk. And the fact that so few did is a moral scandal that still casts its shadow over the present.

                                      Good point. I wonder what they were more afraid of. The wrath of Islam, or being considered a bigot? The latter carries a more immediate and inevitable punch, for those who need to be accepted by the left.

                                      1989? Cancel Culture wasn’t a thing back then.

                                      I don't remember people not standing behind Rushdie back when the fatwa originally took place, at least in the UK. I remember there being fairly widespread support and sympathy for him.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Iran comments, as only Iran can:

                                        "Regarding the attack on Salman Rushdie, we do not consider anyone other than [Rushdie] and his supporters worth of blame and even condemnation," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani said in a televised news conference Monday, marking the country's first public reaction to the incident.

                                        "We have not seen anything else about the individual that carried out this act other than what we've seen from American media. We categorically and seriously deny any connection of the assailant with Iran," Kanaani said, according to Iranian state media.

                                        Sooo...it's Rushdie's fault. Okay, then.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        Doctor PhibesD RenaudaR 2 Replies Last reply
                                        • George KG George K

                                          Iran comments, as only Iran can:

                                          "Regarding the attack on Salman Rushdie, we do not consider anyone other than [Rushdie] and his supporters worth of blame and even condemnation," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani said in a televised news conference Monday, marking the country's first public reaction to the incident.

                                          "We have not seen anything else about the individual that carried out this act other than what we've seen from American media. We categorically and seriously deny any connection of the assailant with Iran," Kanaani said, according to Iranian state media.

                                          Sooo...it's Rushdie's fault. Okay, then.

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                                          @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.:

                                          Sooo...it's Rushdie's fault. Okay, then.

                                          Well if he hadn't been there the stabbing wouldn't have happened!

                                          I was only joking

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