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The Fatwa Lives - Rushdie stabbed on stage.

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    As I said earlier, they are effective. The fatwa goes out and they kill you, sooner or later.

    Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

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    Catseye3
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    #18

    @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

    Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

    I don't know. Ask a mafioso.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

      Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

      I don't know. Ask a mafioso.

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      @Catseye3 said in The Fatwa Lives:

      @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

      Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

      I don't know. Ask a mafioso.

      That's a bit different. Those guys tend to kill for business, not for religion.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Catseye3 said in The Fatwa Lives:

        @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

        Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

        I don't know. Ask a mafioso.

        That's a bit different. Those guys tend to kill for business, not for religion.

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        @Jolly

        Their religion doesn't stop them from killing, though.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          George K
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          #21

          I wouldn’t make too much of him being on a ventilator..yet.

          Long surgery with trauma to head and neck, perhaps airway injury. This could all be on the side of caution. I’ve put countless patients on a ventilator after a long procedure out of caution. Remember, he is older and we don’t know what comorbidities he might have.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @Jolly

            Their religion doesn't stop them from killing, though.

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            George K
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            @Catseye3 said in The Fatwa Lives:

            @Jolly

            Their religion doesn't stop them from killing, though.

            Mafiosi kill in spite of, not because of.

            There’s a difference, you know.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              I wouldn’t make too much of him being on a ventilator..yet.

              Long surgery with trauma to head and neck, perhaps airway injury. This could all be on the side of caution. I’ve put countless patients on a ventilator after a long procedure out of caution. Remember, he is older and we don’t know what comorbidities he might have.

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              @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

              Remember, he is older and we don’t know what comorbidities he might have.

              I hope the Jihadi doves don’t start making ‘die-of-the-fatwa’ vs ‘die-with-the-fatwa’ distinctions now.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                Remember, he is older and we don’t know what comorbidities he might have.

                I hope the Jihadi doves don’t start making ‘die-of-the-fatwa’ vs ‘die-with-the-fatwa’ distinctions now.

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                George K
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                @jon-nyc said in The Fatwa Lives:

                @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                Remember, he is older and we don’t know what comorbidities he might have.

                I hope the Jihadi doves don’t start making ‘die-of-the-fatwa’ vs ‘die-with-the-fatwa’ distinctions now.

                LOL

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  As I said earlier, they are effective. The fatwa goes out and they kill you, sooner or later.

                  Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

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                  @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                  Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                  67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                  I was only joking

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                    "Ayatollah Khomeini's offer of paradise to Rushdie's assassin has caused writers and public officials in Western nations to become almost exclusively preoccupied with the author's rights.

                    While Rushdie's First Amendment freedoms are important, we have tended to promote him and his book with little acknowledgment that it is a direct insult to those millions of Moslems whose sacred beliefs have been violated and are suffering in restrained silence the added embarrassment of the Ayatollah's irresponsibility.

                    This is the kind of intercultural wound that is difficult to heal. Western leaders should make it clear that in protecting Rushdie's life and civil rights, there is no endorsement of an insult to the sacred beliefs of our Moslem friends."

                    Jimmy Carter

                    I guess that "restrained silence" got loud yesterday.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      We may never know the motive...

                      As of about 30 minutes ago, he's STILL in surgery. That's not a good thing.

                      Not at all.

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                      @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                      We may never know the motive...

                      Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 7.54.10 AM copy.jpg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        The paper of record.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                          We may never know the motive...

                          Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 7.54.10 AM copy.jpg

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                          @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                          @George-K said in The Fatwa Lives:

                          We may never know the motive...

                          Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 7.54.10 AM copy.jpg

                          Like me, they are waiting for more information before rushing to judgment.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Thank God that wasn't Fox News or (dare I say it out loud?) Breitbart.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Perp's name is Hadi Matar.

                              I have my doubts about his being of Irish ancestry.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                                67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                                67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                                These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                  @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                  Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                                  67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                                  These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #33

                                  @Copper said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                  @Jolly said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                  Just as a thought exercise, what if Christians acted this way?

                                  67817601-7ead-43a1-a30d-824c15496728-image.png

                                  These guys don't set the agenda for the Christian church.

                                  Obviously, the IRA and Protestant terrorist groups weren't anything like Khomeini, but the conflict was both religious and ethnic in nature. People find excuses to kill people they don't like in the name of all kinds of things.

                                  One of Salman Rushdie's other books, Midnight's Children, painted Indira Gandhi in a very poor light. She was eventually killed by Sikh extremists after her operation at the Golden Temple led to 3000 Sikh's being killed.

                                  Next time there's a mass shooting in the US, let's all make sure we point out that it's an American doing it. Unless of course it's not.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Seems odd to me that there wasn't better security - given he was giving a public lecture in NY. IF I were an assassin, this would be about as good an opportunity as I might expect to have to get close enough to him to accomplish an attack.

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                                    • kluursK kluurs

                                      Seems odd to me that there wasn't better security - given he was giving a public lecture in NY. IF I were an assassin, this would be about as good an opportunity as I might expect to have to get close enough to him to accomplish an attack.

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                                      George K
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                                      @kluurs good point.

                                      But, it's been 40 years, so memories fade.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @kluurs good point.

                                        But, it's been 40 years, so memories fade.

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                                        @George-K

                                        I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K

                                          I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

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                                          @Renauda said in The Fatwa Lives:

                                          @George-K

                                          I would think that security requirements would have been in his contract rider as a guest speaker.

                                          Good point. I (obviously) hadn't considered that.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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