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    Jolly
    wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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    You weren't a happy baby?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      24 Aug 2022, 12:42

      You weren't a happy baby?

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 14:15 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      You weren't a happy baby?

      Look at the big baby!

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      I was only joking

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        Jolly
        wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 14:16 last edited by
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        Nice ears on the hat.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          23 Aug 2022, 17:03

          @Axtremus said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          https://www.salon.com/2022/08/23/lawyers-are-giggling-legal-experts-scratch-their-heads-at-trumps-very-strange-new-doj/

          Lots of criticism on the supposed unprofessionalism of Trump’s court filing alleging violation of his 4th Amendment rights.

          But this one thing piqued my interest, concerning Trump’s demand to have a “special master” to sift through the seized material:

          Weissmann, the former federal prosecutor, said Trump's filing has a "fatal flaw" because it doesn't reckon with the fact that the documents legally belong to the National Archives, not the president.

          "Nothing needs to be sifted because none of the documents are actually the former president's. These all belong, whether classified or not classified, to the national archives," …

          Weissman is a Nazi. A Jewish Nazi, the worst kind.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 01:08 last edited by Renauda
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          @Jolly

          Weissman is a Nazi. A Jewish Nazi, the worst kind..

          Odd juxtaposition. I assume though it wasn’t intentional but rather, just spilled out all over the forum.

          In any case, you can be comforted in knowing that Mr Putin has almost identical sentiments about Mr. Zelenskyi.

          You are indeed in good company

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            25 Aug 2022, 01:08

            @Jolly

            Weissman is a Nazi. A Jewish Nazi, the worst kind..

            Odd juxtaposition. I assume though it wasn’t intentional but rather, just spilled out all over the forum.

            In any case, you can be comforted in knowing that Mr Putin has almost identical sentiments about Mr. Zelenskyi.

            You are indeed in good company

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            Jolly
            wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 01:11 last edited by
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            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @Jolly

            Odd juxtaposition. I assume it wasn’t intentional but rather, just spilled out.

            In any case, you can no comforted in knowing that Mr Putin has almost identical sentiments about Mr. Zelenskyi.

            You are indeed in good company

            Weissman?

            Very intentional. Has all the worst attributes of a prosecutor.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              25 Aug 2022, 01:11

              @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @Jolly

              Odd juxtaposition. I assume it wasn’t intentional but rather, just spilled out.

              In any case, you can no comforted in knowing that Mr Putin has almost identical sentiments about Mr. Zelenskyi.

              You are indeed in good company

              Weissman?

              Very intentional. Has all the worst attributes of a prosecutor.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 01:18 last edited by Renauda
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              @Jolly

              Am sure it was indeed intentional. I would have thought though bureaucrat and fanatic to be more appropriate. Reynard Heydrich being the prime example. Maybe Adolf Eichmann. Looking for a prosecutor? May I offer, Andrei Vyshinsky. Banality at its finest or, should I say, at its most despicable?

              But to each their own I suppose although as I say, you are in good company out there.

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                25 Aug 2022, 01:18

                @Jolly

                Am sure it was indeed intentional. I would have thought though bureaucrat and fanatic to be more appropriate. Reynard Heydrich being the prime example. Maybe Adolf Eichmann. Looking for a prosecutor? May I offer, Andrei Vyshinsky. Banality at its finest or, should I say, at its most despicable?

                But to each their own I suppose although as I say, you are in good company out there.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 11:14 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Jolly

                Am sure it was indeed intentional. I would have thought though bureaucrat and fanatic to be more appropriate. Reynard Heydrich being the prime example. Maybe Adolf Eichmann. Looking for a prosecutor? May I offer, Andrei Vyshinsky. Banality at its finest or, should I say, at its most despicable?

                But to each their own I suppose although as I say, you are in good company out there.

                Mr. Trump's former lawyer, Roy Cohn, was quite a stand-out as a prosecutor, I seem to think...

                I was only joking

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                  George K
                  wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 22:19 last edited by George K
                  #486

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 22:22 last edited by
                    #487

                    Epstein's lawyer granted half of a loaf...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 23:43 last edited by jon-nyc
                      #488

                      Ken White’s new podcast covers the latest trump motion (requesting a ‘Special Master’) as well as this.

                      Worth a listen, they put this episode in front of the paywall. Podcast is called ‘Serious Trouble’.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 17:01 last edited by
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                        Judge says she has ‘preliminary intent’ to appoint special master

                        A federal judge scheduled a hearing for Thursday to consider former President Donald Trump’s request for a “special master” to oversee the FBI’s review of evidence seized at Mar-a-Lago.

                        In doing so, the court put the parties on notice that she had a “preliminary intent” to appoint the special master, a third-party attorney who would filter out privileged material seized in the search.

                        Trump re-ups request for 'special master' but glosses over some questions from the judge

                        Ahead of the hearing, the government faces a Tuesday deadline to respond to Trump’s request in writing, according to the scheduling order from the court.

                        US District Judge Aileen Cannon, who was nominated to the bench by Trump in 2020, is asking the Department of Justice to file a public response, and additionally file under seal records going into greater detail about what was seized from the search as well as a notice laying out the status of the review of the seized materials, including the process of filtering out privileged information.

                        Trump’s reply to DOJ’s response is due Wednesday.

                        The hearing will be at 1 p.m. ET Thursday at the courthouse in West Palm Beach.

                        Cannon said at the end of the order that it should not be construed as her final decision on the matter.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 17:16 last edited by
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                          I figure that will happen.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 17:24 last edited by jon-nyc
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                            Funny the judge asked the Trump team to rewrite their submission. Commentators have said it didn’t really contain much legal content, and it read more like an op-ed. The general conclusion was this was just PR, especially since they waited 10 days to file it, long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 18:35 last edited by
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                              Maybe it goes along with how long Garland sat on doing the raid.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                28 Aug 2022, 17:24

                                Funny the judge asked the Trump team to rewrite their submission. Commentators have said it didn’t really contain much legal content, and it read more like an op-ed. The general conclusion was this was just PR, especially since they waited 10 days to file it, long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 19:23 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                , long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

                                True. But if the special master says this is privileged information, it's not admissible to a court. Perhaps not to a grand jury, either.

                                (aside, does a grand jury get to see evidence, or just the state's case?)

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 20:29 last edited by
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                                  I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    28 Aug 2022, 20:29

                                    I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 23:31 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                    Surely it’s all declassified?

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      28 Aug 2022, 23:31

                                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                      Surely it’s all declassified?

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 00:03 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                      Surely it’s all declassified?

                                      Apparently so, either by having it in his possession or by, Lord knows, magic. Let’s let the courts decide and set a precedent. After all, that how Common Law works.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        28 Aug 2022, 23:31

                                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                        Surely it’s all declassified?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 00:16 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        Surely it’s all declassified?

                                        Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          29 Aug 2022, 00:16

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          Surely it’s all declassified?

                                          Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 00:35 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          Surely it’s all declassified?

                                          Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

                                          Or he could have plans to bury some more ex-wives there...

                                          I was only joking

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