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    Jolly
    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:41 last edited by
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    Lacking specificity?

    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
      wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:13 last edited by
      #383

      A couple of posts rom Ken WHite's (@popehat) feed:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:16 last edited by
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        Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

        We are in different waters.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          17 Aug 2022, 12:16

          Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

          We are in different waters.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:24 last edited by
          #385

          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          We are in different waters.

          A river in Egypt, possibly?

          I was only joking

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Jolly
              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:31 last edited by
              #387

              Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

              Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                17 Aug 2022, 12:31

                Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by
                #388

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                Open another McDonalds near Mar a Lago?

                I was only joking

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by
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                  Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    17 Aug 2022, 12:34

                    Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #390

                    @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                    If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                    I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                    I was only joking

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      17 Aug 2022, 12:36

                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                      If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                      I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:44 last edited by
                      #391

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                      If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                      I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                      I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                      If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        17 Aug 2022, 12:44

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                        If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                        I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                        I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                        If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                        @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                        Well, the Popehat guy, who's an attorney, says it never happens. Doesn't that answer the question?

                        I was only joking

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:47 last edited by Mik
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                          Not after they were going on about doing it. If this is unprecedented, the reasons for it need to be clear. I just want to impose the same rigor on both parties.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                            #394

                            I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                            I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                            We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                            I was only joking

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              17 Aug 2022, 12:48

                              I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                              I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                              We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 13:18 last edited by
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                              I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                              We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                              I think both are possible.

                              1. The FBI has fucked up by the numbers on most things Trump. If nothing else, they need to answer some serious questions about equal justice under the law and SWAT techniques on non-violent crimes.
                              2. I doubt Trump packed his own boxes. It's pretty normal for something classified to follow an ex-President home. I also can see Trump arguing about whether he had the right to take a document. In either case, nothing except a clear and present danger to the Republic warrants a FBI raid. Send three or four guys in a van with a warrant and knock on the damn door.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 13:30 last edited by
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                                I think both is the most likely scenario.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 18 Aug 2022, 14:02 last edited by
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                                  The judge who signed the warrant is considering releasing the affidavit.

                                  Bring it on. It's the only way to justify this to the voters, or to reveal malfeasance.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-judge-to-consider-unsealing-affidavit-that-led-to-mar-a-lago-search/ar-AA10MYMl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=968d505484ee459aa221bf2575596f47

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 18 Aug 2022, 14:06 last edited by
                                    #398

                                    Well, the judge has received a lot of heat for possible bias.

                                    I say release it.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 Aug 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                                      We deserve to know what is behind this.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 18 Aug 2022, 14:17 last edited by Horace
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                                        There will be no there there but for some technical illegalities that it was literally the judge’s job to not ignore. I’m sure there was a point for discretion about whether to pursue a search warrant, but that point was before the documentation landed on the judge’s desk. That point would have been where the bias came in, if any.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • M Mik
                                          18 Aug 2022, 14:17

                                          We deserve to know what is behind this.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 18 Aug 2022, 15:21 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          We deserve to know what is behind this.

                                          Agreed, although I do respect operational or intelligence reasons to keep things secure until the investigation is either complete or at a stage where the revelation of details is appropriate.

                                          My prediction is there will be a very good reason why the FBI took this action, and there will also be a good portion of the country who won't care, even if there is a smoking gun. Biden won by 7 million votes and a Trump-defined landslide of electoral votes, but a good chunk of the country isn't swayed by those facts either.

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