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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #381

    Fighting the release of the affidavit:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/doj-opposes-release-trump-warrant-affidavit?utm_source=browser_push&utm_medium=onesignal&utm_campaign=push_notifications

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #382

      Lacking specificity?

      https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #383

        A couple of posts rom Ken WHite's (@popehat) feed:

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #384

          Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

          We are in different waters.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

            We are in different waters.

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #385

            @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            We are in different waters.

            A river in Egypt, possibly?

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #386

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              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #387

                Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                  Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #388

                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                  Open another McDonalds near Mar a Lago?

                  I was only joking

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #389

                    Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #390

                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                      If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                      I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                        If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                        I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                        MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #391

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                        If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                        I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                        I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                        If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                          If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                          I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                          I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                          If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #392

                          @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                          Well, the Popehat guy, who's an attorney, says it never happens. Doesn't that answer the question?

                          I was only joking

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #393

                            Not after they were going on about doing it. If this is unprecedented, the reasons for it need to be clear. I just want to impose the same rigor on both parties.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #394

                              I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                              I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                              We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                                I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                                We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #395

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                                I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                                We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                                I think both are possible.

                                1. The FBI has fucked up by the numbers on most things Trump. If nothing else, they need to answer some serious questions about equal justice under the law and SWAT techniques on non-violent crimes.
                                2. I doubt Trump packed his own boxes. It's pretty normal for something classified to follow an ex-President home. I also can see Trump arguing about whether he had the right to take a document. In either case, nothing except a clear and present danger to the Republic warrants a FBI raid. Send three or four guys in a van with a warrant and knock on the damn door.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #396

                                  I think both is the most likely scenario.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #397

                                    The judge who signed the warrant is considering releasing the affidavit.

                                    Bring it on. It's the only way to justify this to the voters, or to reveal malfeasance.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-judge-to-consider-unsealing-affidavit-that-led-to-mar-a-lago-search/ar-AA10MYMl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=968d505484ee459aa221bf2575596f47

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #398

                                      Well, the judge has received a lot of heat for possible bias.

                                      I say release it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #399

                                        We deserve to know what is behind this.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by Horace
                                          #400

                                          There will be no there there but for some technical illegalities that it was literally the judge’s job to not ignore. I’m sure there was a point for discretion about whether to pursue a search warrant, but that point was before the documentation landed on the judge’s desk. That point would have been where the bias came in, if any.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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