Mar-a-Lago raided
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h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.
wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by@kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records.
Very clarifying by a writer concerned with evenhandedness in a matter that started out complex and is growing daily more so. Thanks to QT and Kluurs.
Theme sentence, IMO: "There obviously must be a point where information is so sensitive, and Trump’s disregard for law so extreme, to justify legal process against Trump, even in the current milieu."
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wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:36 last edited by
That would have to be an awfully extreme point.
To raid an ex-President's home is beyond the pale, especially the way it was done. If Justice doesn't come up with something big, I mean YUGE, Garland has to go. Wray has to go. And a Special Prosecutor needs to shake the bushes for Whitehouse involvement.
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@taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
"As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......
Nobody is above the law!"
How did he miss Hillary?
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@taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
"As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......
Nobody is above the law!"
Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
LOLTo be fair, he did appoint an FBI director who appears to be enforcing that law.
Promise kept! Way to go, Mr Trump!
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:16 last edited by
Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?
We are in different waters.
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Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?
We are in different waters.
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:31 last edited by
Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?
Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?
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Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?
Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?
wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?
Open another McDonalds near Mar a Lago?
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by
Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.
If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?
I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.
If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?
I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....
wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:44 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.
If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?
I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....
I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.
If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.
If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?
I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....
I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.
If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.
wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.
Well, the Popehat guy, who's an attorney, says it never happens. Doesn't that answer the question?
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:47 last edited by Mik
Not after they were going on about doing it. If this is unprecedented, the reasons for it need to be clear. I just want to impose the same rigor on both parties.
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wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.
I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.
We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.
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I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.
I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.
We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.
wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 13:18 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.
I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.
We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.
I think both are possible.
- The FBI has fucked up by the numbers on most things Trump. If nothing else, they need to answer some serious questions about equal justice under the law and SWAT techniques on non-violent crimes.
- I doubt Trump packed his own boxes. It's pretty normal for something classified to follow an ex-President home. I also can see Trump arguing about whether he had the right to take a document. In either case, nothing except a clear and present danger to the Republic warrants a FBI raid. Send three or four guys in a van with a warrant and knock on the damn door.