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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

    Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

    Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

    The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

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    Jolly
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    #369

    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

    Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

    Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

    The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

    I think all of them do, to one extent or another.

    Unless it's something that really affects national security or they took a couple of 8-wheeler loads of documents, let it slide.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Renauda
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      #370

      A Tucker Carlson moment….

      Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

      Just asking.

      Elbows up!

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #371

        https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

        Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          A Tucker Carlson moment….

          Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

          Just asking.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #372

          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          A Tucker Carlson moment….

          Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

          Just asking.

          Because he’s a wonderful bunch of guys?

          Or maybe one for each of the people he loves the most

          • me, myself, and I?

          I was only joking

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          • kluursK Online
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            kluurs
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            #373

            h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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            • CopperC Copper

              https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

              Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #374

              @Copper

              Thanks. That clears that question.

              Elbows up!

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              • kluursK kluurs

                h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
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                #375

                @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

                Very well presented. Thanks, it addresses a lot of questions.

                All I can say is that it is murky pond into which this affair is leading.

                Elbows up!

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                • kluursK kluurs

                  h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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                  #376

                  @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records.

                  Very clarifying by a writer concerned with evenhandedness in a matter that started out complex and is growing daily more so. Thanks to QT and Kluurs.

                  Theme sentence, IMO: "There obviously must be a point where information is so sensitive, and Trump’s disregard for law so extreme, to justify legal process against Trump, even in the current milieu."

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #377

                    That would have to be an awfully extreme point.

                    To raid an ex-President's home is beyond the pale, especially the way it was done. If Justice doesn't come up with something big, I mean YUGE, Garland has to go. Wray has to go. And a Special Prosecutor needs to shake the bushes for Whitehouse involvement.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #378

                      "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                      Nobody is above the law!"

                      Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                      LOL

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                      )

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                        Nobody is above the law!"

                        Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                        LOL

                        (

                        )

                        CopperC Offline
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                        #379

                        @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                        Nobody is above the law!"

                        How did he miss Hillary?

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                          Nobody is above the law!"

                          Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                          LOL

                          (

                          )

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #380

                          @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                          Nobody is above the law!"

                          Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                          LOL

                          To be fair, he did appoint an FBI director who appears to be enforcing that law.

                          Promise kept! Way to go, Mr Trump!

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Jolly
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                            #381

                            Fighting the release of the affidavit:

                            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/doj-opposes-release-trump-warrant-affidavit?utm_source=browser_push&utm_medium=onesignal&utm_campaign=push_notifications

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #382

                              Lacking specificity?

                              https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #383

                                A couple of posts rom Ken WHite's (@popehat) feed:

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #384

                                  Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

                                  We are in different waters.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

                                    We are in different waters.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #385

                                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    We are in different waters.

                                    A river in Egypt, possibly?

                                    I was only joking

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #386

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #387

                                        Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                                        Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                                          Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #388

                                          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                                          Open another McDonalds near Mar a Lago?

                                          I was only joking

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