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  • K kluurs
    16 Aug 2022, 14:45

    h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:14 last edited by Renauda
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    @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

    Very well presented. Thanks, it addresses a lot of questions.

    All I can say is that it is murky pond into which this affair is leading.

    Elbows up!

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    • K kluurs
      16 Aug 2022, 14:45

      h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
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      @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records.

      Very clarifying by a writer concerned with evenhandedness in a matter that started out complex and is growing daily more so. Thanks to QT and Kluurs.

      Theme sentence, IMO: "There obviously must be a point where information is so sensitive, and Trump’s disregard for law so extreme, to justify legal process against Trump, even in the current milieu."

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Jolly
        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:36 last edited by
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        That would have to be an awfully extreme point.

        To raid an ex-President's home is beyond the pale, especially the way it was done. If Justice doesn't come up with something big, I mean YUGE, Garland has to go. Wray has to go. And a Special Prosecutor needs to shake the bushes for Whitehouse involvement.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:43 last edited by
          #378

          "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

          Nobody is above the law!"

          Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
          LOL

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          • T taiwan_girl
            16 Aug 2022, 16:43

            "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

            Nobody is above the law!"

            Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
            LOL

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            Copper
            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:48 last edited by
            #379

            @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

            Nobody is above the law!"

            How did he miss Hillary?

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            • T taiwan_girl
              16 Aug 2022, 16:43

              "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

              Nobody is above the law!"

              Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
              LOL

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:03 last edited by
              #380

              @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

              Nobody is above the law!"

              Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
              LOL

              To be fair, he did appoint an FBI director who appears to be enforcing that law.

              Promise kept! Way to go, Mr Trump!

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:22 last edited by
                #381

                Fighting the release of the affidavit:

                https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/doj-opposes-release-trump-warrant-affidavit?utm_source=browser_push&utm_medium=onesignal&utm_campaign=push_notifications

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:41 last edited by
                  #382

                  Lacking specificity?

                  https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
                    wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:13 last edited by
                    #383

                    A couple of posts rom Ken WHite's (@popehat) feed:

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:16 last edited by
                      #384

                      Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

                      We are in different waters.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        17 Aug 2022, 12:16

                        Tell me, Mr. Poophat, have you ever seen an ex-President's home raided?

                        We are in different waters.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:24 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        We are in different waters.

                        A river in Egypt, possibly?

                        I was only joking

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:31 last edited by
                            #387

                            Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                            Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              17 Aug 2022, 12:31

                              Y'all did notice Trump went up 4 points after his home was raided?

                              Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by
                              #388

                              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Ask yourself, how do you get more Trump?

                              Open another McDonalds near Mar a Lago?

                              I was only joking

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:34 last edited by
                                #389

                                Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  17 Aug 2022, 12:34

                                  Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                  #390

                                  @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                                  If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                                  I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    17 Aug 2022, 12:36

                                    @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                                    If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                                    I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:44 last edited by
                                    #391

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                                    If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                                    I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                                    I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                                    If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      17 Aug 2022, 12:44

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Which is what I said on day one. Dr. Frankenstein is reviving his monster.

                                      If he's actually done something that would justify the raid, then surely that's irrelevant?

                                      I know, this concept is clearly unthinkable for some here, but....

                                      I have no problem believing that. But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                                      If nothing comes of this, and it is looking like it will not thus far, they just gave him a big leg up on the nomination.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #392

                                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      But I do wonder why they are refusing to release the affidavit.

                                      Well, the Popehat guy, who's an attorney, says it never happens. Doesn't that answer the question?

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:47 last edited by Mik
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                                        Not after they were going on about doing it. If this is unprecedented, the reasons for it need to be clear. I just want to impose the same rigor on both parties.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 12:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                          I can readily imagine the scenario that this raid was a total screw-up, and the FBI have once again acted like imbeciles.

                                          I can also imagine the opposite, that Trump's really fucked up and taken something he shouldn't have.

                                          We don't have the information to know which case is reality at this point.

                                          I was only joking

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