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Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #6

    I think until we splash a Chinese fighter, it doesn't make much difference one way or the other.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #7

      Without saying it, Taiwan hopes that the visit takes place.

      It is exactly what @bachophile said - if she does not go now, then it looks like the US is bowing to the wishes of mainland China.

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
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          #9

          https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3187407/tension-soars-taiwan-prepares-its-air-raid-shelters-subway

          I remember doing these drills as a kid

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          • CopperC Offline
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            #10

            An airplane believed to be carrying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has landed on the island of Taiwan after weeks of international speculation and threats of retaliation from the Chinese Communist Party.

            believed to be carrying?

            Come on

            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-lands-taiwan-chinese-threats-military-activity

            (CNN)US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed in Taipei on Tuesday, marking a significant show of support for Taiwan despite China's threats of retaliation over the visit.

            https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/politics/nancy-pelosi-visit-taipei-taiwan-trip/index.html

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #11

              While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

              The Brad

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #12

                Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                  While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

                  Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    #14

                    @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

                    What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                      While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

                      Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.

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                      @Jolly said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                      at least four or five years

                      You misspelled "forty" and "fifty."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

                        What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                        @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

                        What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

                        Sanity.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

                          What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                          @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

                          What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

                          Do you recall seeing me take a crap? Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…

                          The Brad

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                            In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.

                            China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

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                              #19

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                              While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

                              Yep, well said

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                In her own words.

                                https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/8222-3

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                                  #21

                                  I'm beginning to think it might have been a good idea. China's response was to fire off a few missiles we already knew they had. Big whoop.

                                  But now that everyone signaled their position let's let this settle back down.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-claims-precision-missile-strikes-in-taiwan-strait/ar-AA10hZA5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • AxtremusA Away
                                    AxtremusA Away
                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    Another US congressional delegation visits Taiwan:

                                    US Taiwan: Congress team follows Pelosi with second high-level visit in a month
                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62541750

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                                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      Another current visit

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/another-us-congressional-delegation-in-taiwan-amid-tensions/ar-AA11A2tJ

                                      Participants

                                      Stephanie Murphy -D
                                      Kaiali’i Kahele - D
                                      Scott Franklin - R
                                      Joe Wilson - R
                                      Andy Barr - R
                                      Darrell Issa - R
                                      Claudia Tenney - R
                                      Kat Cammack - R

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        Another current visit

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/another-us-congressional-delegation-in-taiwan-amid-tensions/ar-AA11A2tJ

                                        Participants

                                        Stephanie Murphy -D
                                        Kaiali’i Kahele - D
                                        Scott Franklin - R
                                        Joe Wilson - R
                                        Andy Barr - R
                                        Darrell Issa - R
                                        Claudia Tenney - R
                                        Kat Cammack - R

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @taiwan_girl

                                        I think it great to see US politicians getting out and seeing and experiencing the world they inhabit.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.

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                                          @Mik said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                                          Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.

                                          Maybe she'll dazzle them with her pretty scarf. You know, the one with the stripes.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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