Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/01/politics/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-visit/index.html
The CCP has been sable rattling a lot and warning dire military consequences if Speaker Pelosi were to visit Taiwan.
What say you? Do you think Speaker Pelosi should visit Taiwan?
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 15:41 last edited by
What do you think?
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 15:52 last edited by
Absolutely.
Backing down is inviting trouble. It’s time to call the bluff. China won’t invade because of the visit. They may muck around abit in the straits but no invasion.
They are not stupid like Putin and Ukraine.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 16:14 last edited by
After the threat, the visit became impossible to cancel.
The Chinese know that.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 18:40 last edited by Axtremus 8 Jan 2022, 18:40
@Jolly said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
What do you think?
Speaker Pelosi should do it, because:
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We, the USA, is supposed to be the beacon of democracy, and Taiwan is a democracy. We should support democracies.
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We are the USA, we don't let 3rd party country tell us where our representatives can or cannot visit.
If Taiwan don't want Speaker Pelosi there, or if Speaker Pelosi have other reasons to not visit Taiwan at this time, fine. Otherwise we should not let the CCP tell our Speaker of the House where she can or cannot visit.
Now you, @Jolly, what do you think.
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wrote on 1 Aug 2022, 23:04 last edited by
I think until we splash a Chinese fighter, it doesn't make much difference one way or the other.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 01:42 last edited by
Without saying it, Taiwan hopes that the visit takes place.
It is exactly what @bachophile said - if she does not go now, then it looks like the US is bowing to the wishes of mainland China.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 12:18 last edited by
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 13:40 last edited by
I remember doing these drills as a kid
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:07 last edited by Copper 8 Feb 2022, 15:07
An airplane believed to be carrying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has landed on the island of Taiwan after weeks of international speculation and threats of retaliation from the Chinese Communist Party.
believed to be carrying?
Come on
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-lands-taiwan-chinese-threats-military-activity
(CNN)US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed in Taipei on Tuesday, marking a significant show of support for Taiwan despite China's threats of retaliation over the visit.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/politics/nancy-pelosi-visit-taipei-taiwan-trip/index.html
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:12 last edited by
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:13 last edited by
Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
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While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:20 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:32 last edited by Axtremus 8 Feb 2022, 17:33
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
at least four or five years
You misspelled "forty" and "fifty."
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@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:43 last edited by@Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
Sanity.
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@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 19:16 last edited by@Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
Do you recall seeing me take a crap? Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 01:09 last edited by
In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.
China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.
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While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 03:24 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Yep, well said
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:52 last edited by
In her own words.