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    Mik
    wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:18 last edited by
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    Yep. The ends justify the means is a very slippery slope.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      8 Jul 2022, 13:11

      It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

      These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

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      89th
      wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:25 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

      It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

      These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

      They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

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        8 Jul 2022, 13:25

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

        It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

        These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

        They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:30 last edited by
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        @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

        It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

        These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

        They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

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        I was only joking

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        • 8 89th
          8 Jul 2022, 13:25

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

          These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

          They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:33 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Aug 2022, 13:35
          #7

          @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

          These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

          They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

          Like losing elections?

          I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • 8 89th
            8 Jul 2022, 13:25

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

            It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

            These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

            They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:36 last edited by
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            @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

            who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

            How long did you say you've been on TNCR?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • J jon-nyc
              8 Jul 2022, 13:33

              @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

              It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

              These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

              They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

              Like losing elections?

              I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:37 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

              @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

              It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.

              These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.

              They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.

              Like losing elections?

              I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.

              Is the former President of the USA considered to be 'fringe'?

              I'm going out on a limb, here, but I'd humbly suggest that maturity and civility weren't exactly two of his key strengths.

              I was only joking

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                89th
                wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:48 last edited by
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                Ok I almost referenced the MAGA sore losers but figured it was obvious that it was a (noteworthy, I guess) anomaly. Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:51 last edited by
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                  Ok, the score is one event versus thousands. 89th's point still stands.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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                    Oh sure. Both sides have “very fine people.”

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • 8 89th
                      8 Jul 2022, 13:48

                      Ok I almost referenced the MAGA sore losers but figured it was obvious that it was a (noteworthy, I guess) anomaly. Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:00 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:02
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                      @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

                      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriot-front-white-supremacist-march-boston-alleged-assault-should-be-prosecuted-mayor-michelle-wu/

                      I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend

                      I was only joking

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:09 last edited by
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                        And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          8 Jul 2022, 14:00

                          @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                          Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

                          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriot-front-white-supremacist-march-boston-alleged-assault-should-be-prosecuted-mayor-michelle-wu/

                          I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:11 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                          @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                          Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

                          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriot-front-white-supremacist-march-boston-alleged-assault-should-be-prosecuted-mayor-michelle-wu/

                          I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend

                          Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • M Mik
                            8 Jul 2022, 14:09

                            And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:12 last edited by
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                            @Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                            And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.

                            Both sides also have their fair share of assholes.

                            I was only joking

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:14 last edited by
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                              REALLY? Wow. I had never thought of THAT! 🙄

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              • M Mik
                                8 Jul 2022, 14:11

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

                                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriot-front-white-supremacist-march-boston-alleged-assault-should-be-prosecuted-mayor-michelle-wu/

                                I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend

                                Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:14 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                @89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.

                                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriot-front-white-supremacist-march-boston-alleged-assault-should-be-prosecuted-mayor-michelle-wu/

                                I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend

                                Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!

                                How many people protested at the steakhouse?

                                Because you didn't dismiss that as unimportant.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                                  That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  • M Mik
                                    8 Jul 2022, 14:17

                                    That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:24
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                                    @Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                    That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.

                                    Sure, that's a fair point. I think the angry left are a real problem, and I don't want anything to do with them.

                                    However, the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                    So, it's not quite as straightforward as you're claiming. If you honestly don't think that what Trump did after losing the election in an attempt to undermine an election result isn't serious, then I don't know what to say.

                                    Now, you can argue that it was incompetent, blundering, stupid. But imagine if he wasn't such a moron....

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      8 Jul 2022, 14:21

                                      @Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                      That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.

                                      Sure, that's a fair point. I think the angry left are a real problem, and I don't want anything to do with them.

                                      However, the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                      So, it's not quite as straightforward as you're claiming. If you honestly don't think that what Trump did after losing the election in an attempt to undermine an election result isn't serious, then I don't know what to say.

                                      Now, you can argue that it was incompetent, blundering, stupid. But imagine if he wasn't such a moron....

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:24 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                      the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                      No, it wasn't.

                                      It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        8 Jul 2022, 14:24

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                        the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                        No, it wasn't.

                                        It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.

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                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:26 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                        No, it wasn't.
                                        It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.

                                        No, it wasn't. As I posted recently, it was started by Trump long before it took place.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • G George K
                                          8 Jul 2022, 14:24

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                          the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                          No, it wasn't.

                                          It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:27
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                                          @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                          the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.

                                          No, it wasn't.

                                          It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.

                                          Do you think what Schumer said/did was equivalent to what Trump did or better/worse?

                                          I was only joking

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