Protest at the Steak House.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:18 last edited by
Yep. The ends justify the means is a very slippery slope.
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It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:25 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:30 last edited by@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:33 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Aug 2022, 13:35@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
Like losing elections?
I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:36 last edited by@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
How long did you say you've been on TNCR?
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@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
Like losing elections?
I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
It seems like these are stepping stones on the road to the hell of political violence, which in itself will eventually lead to less freedom rather than more.
These protesters are awful, they're so convinced that they're in the right and that the opposition are evil.
They're also just sore losers. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it often seems those (like me) who generally lean on the conservative side of things handle rulings they don't like with more maturity and civility.
Like losing elections?
I think the real issue is we’re more discerning with our own tribe. You’re more willing to think of the fringe on your own side as fringe while the fringe on the other side seems representative.
Is the former President of the USA considered to be 'fringe'?
I'm going out on a limb, here, but I'd humbly suggest that maturity and civility weren't exactly two of his key strengths.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:48 last edited by
Ok I almost referenced the MAGA sore losers but figured it was obvious that it was a (noteworthy, I guess) anomaly. Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:51 last edited by
Ok, the score is one event versus thousands. 89th's point still stands.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 13:54 last edited by
Oh sure. Both sides have “very fine people.”
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Ok I almost referenced the MAGA sore losers but figured it was obvious that it was a (noteworthy, I guess) anomaly. Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:00 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:02@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:09 last edited by
And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.
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@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:11 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend
Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!
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And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:12 last edited by@Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:
And they do. The fact that someone sees the world differently than you does not make them evil.
Both sides also have their fair share of assholes.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:14 last edited by
REALLY? Wow. I had never thought of THAT!
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend
Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:14 last edited by@Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@89th said in Protest at the Steak House.:
Don't really see far/right folks blocking traffic, or yelling at judges in restaurants, or rioting/looting, or flooding the streets when a criminal is killed after resisting arrest.
I didn't see this reported outside of Boston, but it was just last weekend
Wow... there were DOZENS of them!!!
How many people protested at the steakhouse?
Because you didn't dismiss that as unimportant.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:17 last edited by
That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:24
@Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:
That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.
Sure, that's a fair point. I think the angry left are a real problem, and I don't want anything to do with them.
However, the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
So, it's not quite as straightforward as you're claiming. If you honestly don't think that what Trump did after losing the election in an attempt to undermine an election result isn't serious, then I don't know what to say.
Now, you can argue that it was incompetent, blundering, stupid. But imagine if he wasn't such a moron....
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@Mik said in Protest at the Steak House.:
That's because the sheer numbers of leftist protests dwarf those put on by the right.
Sure, that's a fair point. I think the angry left are a real problem, and I don't want anything to do with them.
However, the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
So, it's not quite as straightforward as you're claiming. If you honestly don't think that what Trump did after losing the election in an attempt to undermine an election result isn't serious, then I don't know what to say.
Now, you can argue that it was incompetent, blundering, stupid. But imagine if he wasn't such a moron....
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:24 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
No, it wasn't.
It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
No, it wasn't.
It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:26 last edited by@George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:
No, it wasn't.
It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.No, it wasn't. As I posted recently, it was started by Trump long before it took place.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
No, it wasn't.
It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.
wrote on 8 Jul 2022, 14:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2022, 14:27@George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Protest at the Steak House.:
the leftist protest wasn't started by the actual President of the United States.
No, it wasn't.
It was started, or incited, but the Majority Leader of the Senate.
Do you think what Schumer said/did was equivalent to what Trump did or better/worse?