A bad day for Trump
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It's all how you frame the narrative.
On Friday, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a member of the House select committee, declared that former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone”did not contradict” the testimony of previous witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson. However, the New York Times is reporting that he was not asked about statements that the Committee knew he would contradict.
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God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
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@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
@Larry said in A bad day for Trump:
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.
What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.
We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.
Please love yourself.
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@Larry said in A bad day for Trump:
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.
What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.
We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.
@Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:
@Larry said in A bad day for Trump:
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.
What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.
We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.
Amen, brother.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:
@Larry said in A bad day for Trump:
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.
I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.
How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.
What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.
We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.
Amen, brother.
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
Amen, brother.
I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.
No need. @Mik said it better.
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@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
Amen, brother.
I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.
No need. @Mik said it better.
@George-K said in A bad day for Trump:
@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
Amen, brother.
I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.
No need. @Mik said it better.
Agreed. Well said. I don't know much about them besides the headlines, but it sounds like a Hogan or DeWine.
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@Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:
DeSantis.
Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.
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@Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:
DeSantis.
Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.
@George-K said in A bad day for Trump:
@Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:
DeSantis.
Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.
Yeah it seems DeSantis is positioning well for that nomination. He also (should?) help lock in Florida's electoral votes. DeSantis/Haley would be a solid ticket.
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Desantis would be fascinating. Pop culture will expect a pledge of fealty against him along the lines of Never Trump. Lots of opportunists who recognized how easy it was to publicly hate Trump are going to lose some friends, or come to terms that they’ll never be able to publicly support a GOP president again.
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@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
Looking like the frontrunner.
DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.
Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.
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@Mik said in A bad day for Trump:
Looking like the frontrunner.
DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.
Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.
@Renauda said in A bad day for Trump:
she may not want the VP spot
She might be interested looking forward 8 years. By then, it'll be her turn.
