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    Larry
    wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:36 last edited by
    #99

    He will run, and he will crush what's left of the democrap party.

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      Mik
      wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:44 last edited by
      #100

      God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        11 Jul 2022, 12:44

        God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

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        Larry
        wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:48 last edited by
        #101

        @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

        God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

        I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

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        • L Larry
          11 Jul 2022, 12:48

          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

          God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

          I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 00:13 last edited by
          #102

          @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

          God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

          I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

          How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

          What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

          We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

          Please love yourself.

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            Horace
            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 00:24 last edited by
            #103

            The left, when Trump is president, is chaotic and destructive. The best analogy is to children throwing a tantrum, but when they're supposed to be the adults in the room, there is nobody to check them.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              12 Jul 2022, 00:13

              @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

              @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

              God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

              I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

              How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

              What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

              We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

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              Mik
              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 01:20 last edited by
              #104

              @Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:

              @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

              @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

              God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

              I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

              How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

              What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

              We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

              Amen, brother.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                12 Jul 2022, 01:20

                @Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:

                @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                Amen, brother.

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                George K
                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 01:23 last edited by
                #105

                @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                Amen, brother.

                I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                No need. @Mik said it better.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  12 Jul 2022, 01:23

                  @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                  Amen, brother.

                  I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                  No need. @Mik said it better.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 11:47 last edited by
                  #106

                  @George-K said in A bad day for Trump:

                  @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                  Amen, brother.

                  I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                  No need. @Mik said it better.

                  Agreed. Well said. I don't know much about them besides the headlines, but it sounds like a Hogan or DeWine.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:16 last edited by
                    #107

                    DeSantis.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:38 last edited by
                      #108

                      Looking like the frontrunner.

                      DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Jolly
                        12 Jul 2022, 12:16

                        DeSantis.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:40 last edited by
                        #109

                        @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                        DeSantis.

                        Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          12 Jul 2022, 12:40

                          @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                          DeSantis.

                          Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 13:28 last edited by
                          #110

                          @George-K said in A bad day for Trump:

                          @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                          DeSantis.

                          Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

                          Yeah it seems DeSantis is positioning well for that nomination. He also (should?) help lock in Florida's electoral votes. DeSantis/Haley would be a solid ticket.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 13:41 last edited by Horace 7 Dec 2022, 14:06
                            #111

                            Desantis would be fascinating. Pop culture will expect a pledge of fealty against him along the lines of Never Trump. Lots of opportunists who recognized how easy it was to publicly hate Trump are going to lose some friends, or come to terms that they’ll never be able to publicly support a GOP president again.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • M Mik
                              12 Jul 2022, 12:38

                              Looking like the frontrunner.

                              DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 14:02 last edited by
                              #112

                              @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                              Looking like the frontrunner.

                              DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                              Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda
                                12 Jul 2022, 14:02

                                @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                Looking like the frontrunner.

                                DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                                Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 14:19 last edited by
                                #113

                                @Renauda said in A bad day for Trump:

                                she may not want the VP spot

                                She might be interested looking forward 8 years. By then, it'll be her turn.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  12 Jul 2022, 14:19

                                  @Renauda said in A bad day for Trump:

                                  she may not want the VP spot

                                  She might be interested looking forward 8 years. By then, it'll be her turn.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 14:22 last edited by Renauda 7 Dec 2022, 14:26
                                  #114

                                  @George-K

                                  No doubt. She strikes me as a very disciplined and even keel person. If I were an American I would have no qualms voting for her.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 22:53 last edited by
                                    #115

                                    The driver of "The Beast" said that what Hutchinson alleged never happened.

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/us/politics/jan-6-trump-motorcade-secret-service.html

                                    Testimony Fleshes Out Account of Trump’s Demand to Go to Capitol on Jan. 6

                                    But a newly released transcript of an interview of the Secret Service agent who drove Donald Trump’s vehicle that day disputes that he tried to grab the steering wheel or lunged at another agent.

                                    “The president was insistent on going to the Capitol,” recounted the driver, whose name was not disclosed. “It was clear to me he wanted to go to the Capitol. He was not screaming at Mr. Engel. He was not screaming at me. Certainly his voice was raised, but it did not seem to me that he was irate — certainly not, certainly didn’t seem as irritated or agitated as he had on the way to the Ellipse.”
                                    But, the driver said, Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel or physically accosted the agents, contradicting one of the most sensational and hotly disputed elements of testimony given to the House Jan. 6 committee by a White House aide. The transcript of the driver is the first extensive eyewitness account of what happened in the armored vehicle to be made public.

                                    “I did not see him reach,” the Secret Service driver told investigators for the House panel. “He never grabbed the steering wheel. I didn’t see him, you know, lunge to try to get into the front seat at all. You know, what stood out was the irritation in his voice, more than his physical presence.”

                                    The driver’s transcript adds detail to one of the most scrutinized episodes of Jan. 6, 2021. The transcript was never released publicly by the House Jan. 6 committee, which entered into an agreement with the Secret Service regarding 12 interviews to avoid disclosing “privacy information, for-official-use-only information, intelligence and law enforcement sensitive records and raw intelligence information.”

                                    Republicans have suggested that the panel did not release the transcript because it contradicts portions of a public account of the incident from a prominent witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, who served as an aide to Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff at the time. Ms. Hutchinson testified in June 2022 that she had heard about what happened from others second- or thirdhand. Republicans have faulted the panel’s decision to promote her account of Mr. Trump’s behavior in the vehicle.

                                    So, as speculated Ms Htuchinson was testifying about what someone told her. That kind of testimony, in a real court, is called "hearsay."

                                    And the driver's testimony was only released today. I wonder why.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 22:57 last edited by
                                      #116

                                      Every single thing you see thrown at him turns to be at least tainted if not completely false.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 23:14 last edited by
                                        #117

                                        Adults have no one to turn to when they sense "unknown danger" on the level of Donald Trump, so their panicked inner child starts doing their thinking and acting for them.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 01:13 last edited by
                                          #118

                                          So, Liz lied and the Dem's pet committee has buried any evidence that doesn't fit the narrative.m

                                          Yo, 89th, master of fairness, what say you?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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