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  • X xenon

    It’s be fun to see a primary with other Republicans throwing all this stuff against Trump.

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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #95

    @xenon said in A bad day for Trump:

    It’s be fun to see a primary with other Republicans throwing all this stuff against Trump.

    And losing.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
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      #96

      It's all how you frame the narrative.

      On Friday, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a member of the House select committee, declared that former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone”did not contradict” the testimony of previous witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson. However, the New York Times is reporting that he was not asked about statements that the Committee knew he would contradict.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #97

        Again, theater...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #98

          It's all bullshit aimed at getting him to not run in 24.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #99

            He will run, and he will crush what's left of the democrap party.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #100

              God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

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                Larry
                wrote on last edited by
                #101

                @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

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                • LarryL Larry

                  @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                  God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                  I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #102

                  @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                  @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                  God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                  I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                  How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                  What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                  We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Horace
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                    #103

                    The left, when Trump is president, is chaotic and destructive. The best analogy is to children throwing a tantrum, but when they're supposed to be the adults in the room, there is nobody to check them.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                      @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                      God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                      I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                      How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                      What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                      We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

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                      #104

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:

                      @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                      @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                      God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                      I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                      How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                      What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                      We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                      Amen, brother.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:

                        @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                        @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                        God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                        I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                        How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                        What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                        We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                        Amen, brother.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #105

                        @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                        Amen, brother.

                        I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                        No need. @Mik said it better.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                          Amen, brother.

                          I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                          No need. @Mik said it better.

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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #106

                          @George-K said in A bad day for Trump:

                          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                          Amen, brother.

                          I was going to get into all the details of what @Aqua-Letifer said.

                          No need. @Mik said it better.

                          Agreed. Well said. I don't know much about them besides the headlines, but it sounds like a Hogan or DeWine.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #107

                            DeSantis.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #108

                              Looking like the frontrunner.

                              DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                DeSantis.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #109

                                @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                                DeSantis.

                                Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                                  DeSantis.

                                  Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

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                                  89th
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                                  #110

                                  @George-K said in A bad day for Trump:

                                  @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                                  DeSantis.

                                  Probably. He's very Trump-like without being like Trump, if you get my drift. I saw a poll saying that half of GOP members who were polled want Trump to not run. I think that number will only grow in the next year.

                                  Yeah it seems DeSantis is positioning well for that nomination. He also (should?) help lock in Florida's electoral votes. DeSantis/Haley would be a solid ticket.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by Horace
                                    #111

                                    Desantis would be fascinating. Pop culture will expect a pledge of fealty against him along the lines of Never Trump. Lots of opportunists who recognized how easy it was to publicly hate Trump are going to lose some friends, or come to terms that they’ll never be able to publicly support a GOP president again.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Looking like the frontrunner.

                                      DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

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                                      #112

                                      @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                      Looking like the frontrunner.

                                      DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                                      Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                        Looking like the frontrunner.

                                        DeSantis/Haley? Not sure she'd take the VP spot.

                                        Under the present global security situation, I think either would be a good choice. Together it would be a solid ticket, but I agree she may not want the VP spot.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #113

                                        @Renauda said in A bad day for Trump:

                                        she may not want the VP spot

                                        She might be interested looking forward 8 years. By then, it'll be her turn.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Renauda said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          she may not want the VP spot

                                          She might be interested looking forward 8 years. By then, it'll be her turn.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #114

                                          @George-K

                                          No doubt. She strikes me as a very disciplined and even keel person. If I were an American I would have no qualms voting for her.

                                          Elbows up!

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